Storming Of The Capitol Building

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(08-27-2021, 05:04 PM)Au165 Wrote: That's a bad faith argument, and I venture to believe you know that. A person being shot "unarmed" participating in an attack on the U.S. capitol is different then being shot while going about their normal every day life. Being shot while "unarmed" while trying to breach a secure area with people in the line of succession to be President is different than being shot while during a traffic stop. 

Unarmed is not analogous with not dangerous correct but that’s not what we are talking about here.  Participating in a terroristic event that puts national security at risk kind of trumps a lot of rights and protections. If a person rushes the POTUS there is a relatively common understanding that person will most likely be shot without question because of national security implications. There is a fair argument to be made all those who were at the door could have, and potentially should have, been fired on because of the national security threat they posed at that moment. 

I'm disappointed the Babbitt stuff found it's way here to be honest because she was a terrorist and trying to compare stopping a terrorist during an attack on the country to other events of every day citizens is in bad taste.

Not according to Dill, he has zero problem with comparing Americans to Nazis and the Taliban.  But seriously, I get what you're saying, but you're also making a bad faith counter argument by stating unarmed people get shot by law enforcement "while going about their daily life", as if there's slews of examples of law enforcement just shooting someone out of the blue who was grocery shopping.

The point I am making, and it's in no way a bad faith one, is that being "unarmed" is frequently used by anti law enforcement types to declare a shooting a bad one.  As stated, being unarmed is not analogous to being not dangerous.  So, with this agreement in hand I'll be very pleased to see a more nuanced view of law enforcement shootings from this point forward.  Simply stating "they were unarmed" is not an argument in itself as to why a shooting was justified or not.  Hell, there are still people trying to say the Ohio shooting of the girl in the midst of stabbing someone was a bad shooting.