08-31-2021, 06:20 PM
(08-31-2021, 05:17 PM)bengaloo Wrote: My answer is that being his first case of covid, he had no natural immunity because he didnt have covid until he got covid the first time. You have to survive the disease for your body to achieve any amount of immunity.
What about his innate immunity?
You’re using imprecise terms like natural immunity and trying to create confusion with innate and acquired immunity.
So tell me, if there is natural immunity; what’s unnatural immunity?
Quote:You have no immunity until you are infected with its antibodies.
You don’t get infected with antibodies. Your immune system creates antibodies in response to an antigen.
Quote:I've never disputed that, ever.
You have repeatedly implied “natural immunity” is superior to vaccinations. Despite your own source stating otherwise. First, you are referring to acquired immunity from PRIOR infection. Another type of acquired immunity is from vaccinations that provides immunity without getting the disease. Second, your grandfather did have innate immunity, but he did not have acquired immunity from previous infection.
So this so called “natural” immunity you keep pimping does nothing to prevent your first case of Covid. As evidenced by your grandfather.
But, there is something people who have never had Covid can do to prevent getting their first case of Covid. It rhymes with “vaccination.”
Quote:But for those who survived covid, which thankfully is over 99% of the people who have got it,
The case fatality rate varies greatly by demographics.
Quote:that is when they have covid antibodies in their system, and whether its 1 week or 20 years, those natural antibodies have a good chance at protecting them from future infection of the same disease. We just dont know how long and to what extent and to say otherwise is a lie.
We routinely check antibody levels for new hires because a acquired immunity due to past infection (and even vaccines) wanes with time. That’s the basis for every childhood and adult immunization booster.
Quote:And I wasnt insulting you my friend. More like being concerned based on one of the posts you made about yourself and how badly this is affecting you. I didnt make that post, you did, and it seems a bit concerning for your overall well being is all. My suggestion for you to take a break is no insult. Its caring for my fellow man. That is all. I have nothing against you and value your opinion, but its still just an opinion, and we just simply have not been into the covid thing long enough to know most of the stuff people are claiming including you or myself. That is why I think its good to keep an open mind, as more data comes out. Its early in the game with this man. We both know that.
Oh, so now I can’t even be sure when someone is insulting me?
That’s pretty funny coming from someone who doesn’t know the difference between an antibody and an antigen, but is handing out misinformation on immunity and vaccines.
