11-09-2015, 02:52 AM
(11-09-2015, 01:53 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Don't know why you are puzzled. I have already pointed out that i considered this to be a "public safety" stop instead of one that would justify any sort of citation.
What you consider it would be irrelevant. Whether it violates the law in the state it occurred, which it apparently does, is relevant.
Quote:In Tennessee we don't give out citations for people walking down the road who are not obstructing traffic. If they do that in her state then I agree that the police had the right to ask for her ID. But I just don't see it ever happen here. And since the officer didn't mention anything about any legal violation and only talked about her safety I really don't think he felt he had any grounds to give her a citation.
Again, you don't know, but that doesn't stop you from making definitive statements. Again, does Tennessee not have jaywalking laws? I asked this before and you failed to respond for some reason. If it does then this action would have been a citable offense in your state as well.
Quote:Now will you agree that when you come in contact with a person, but have no cause to believe that he was involved in any criminal activity you don't have the right to make him give you his identification? You said you were going to address this, but you actually didn't.
Depends, since you like to be very legalistic, on whether you consider a engaging in a citable offense "criminal activity"? Just walking up to a random citizen and asking for identification is wrong and potentially violates civil rights. Asking a woman engaging in a citable offense for her ID is a matter of course.
(11-09-2015, 02:00 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I find your lack of reading comprehension disturbing for one who claims to be an officer of the law. When I mentioned your tendency to resort to name calling I never limited it to direct responses to me.
I love it when you get all Pee Wee Herman. You, specifically, since you like to be legalisitc, stated I didn't have to resort to name calling. you made this statement in this thread. You made no mention of other thread in that statement or any other prior to this one. This would lead the so called reasonable person to believe you were referencing a statement made in this thread. When asked to produce an example you failed to do so. I then made a deliberate post containing one and, sadly and predictably, you seized on it as your example. Quite sincerely, for a lawyer you're very bad at this kind of arguing.
Quote:And based on your history I am not surprised that you try to avoid any accountability for resorting to personal insults.
Accountability? For what? I own what I say. I asked for an example, you had none until I deliberately gave you one. Even in that example the worst you can point out is that I said that in some of your posts you're completely full of shit. A few examples of this can be found in this very thread btw. If you consider that name calling then you're probably not cut out for this whole internet thing.
