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It's a passing league
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(09-12-2021, 01:47 AM)Whatever Wrote: Bernard was in the backfield blocking on the play Burrow got hurt.

The Bengals had 5 WR's on the field on only 16 plays last year, so I'm not sure where you're coming up with a large chunk of plays coming with no RB on the field.  Being primarily an 11 personnel team, typically the RB and/or TE will at least chip before releasing.  

Play action is only as effective as your ability to run the ball.  It's a tool, but in an AFCN division where it's notoriously hard to run the ball, it's often going to be ineffective.  Leaving more guys in to block has its own issues.  It keeps more guys in the box and allows teams to disguise the blitz better.  It also invites DC's to blitz more.  Spreading the field makes it a lot harder to blitz and leave uncovered targets and also makes it a lot harder to disguise blitzes.  There are pluses and minuses to both when it comes to protecting the QB.

cool... great... awesome.

Cause, that database which you don't bother to link your source on, I'm 100% sure counts every time a guy is motioned out of the backfield which I specifically said in my statement about them sending the back out of the backfield in motion and there is an article... 

look a source https://www.espn.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/32548/empty-feeling-how-bengals-are-using-rbs-differently-to-help-joe-burrow

"Those are things that we've done a handful of certainly over the last season," Bengals offensive coordinator Brian Callahan said. "Joe is comfortable with the formation spread out. I would be hard-pressed to think of anyone running more empty [sets] than us at this point."

talking about exactly what I was saying. That Burrow likes to work from an empty set. So... an empty set means no one back behind the QB, just because a RB is out there on the field, doesn't mean he is in a position to you know... run. 

For example, you said look at the play Burrow got hurt. Okay, let's do that. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hnVvGvdvFc

Click on the link and have a look and you'll see that Gio is on the field, but... is he in any position where he can run the ball from? That would be absolutely not. Is Burrow back there, by himself telling the defense before the snap "Hey, we are going pass so you can just storm up field"? Well that would be a yes.

This is why I just don't engage with you. You spin things to fit what you want to push. Reality. The QB for the Bengals got hurt from being in obvious passing situations (be it formation or down and distance or just because anyone with a brain could see Taylor was going to throw it over and over and over) far too often and taking too many hits. Everyone who knows basic football saw the injury coming and was talking about it. But hey, let's do the same shit this year and you can print out another list of QBs with two knee surgeries who won a Super Bowl.

You come out with Manning threw it 40 times but totally neglect the fact immediately after that season is when he had his neck surgery that ended his time in Indy. You also neglected that when he did it in Denver it was on a team that had a good RB (Moreno went for over 1000 yards), was well coached and had a good line. What part of that do you see in Cincinnati? The only QB you listed that is a true "wow, how did that happen" is Stafford in Detroit. That team was terrible for years, and he survived. The rest of the guys you listed Drew Brees (Alvin Kamara Sean Payton), Roethlisberger (Bettis, Bell, Cowher, Tomlin) Matt Ryan (Mike Smith who at the time had come off 5 straight winning seasons including two 13 win seasons), Warren Moon (Jack Pardee then Terry Allen's 1000 yard season and Dennis Green), Phillip River (Melvin Gordon). 

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It's a passing league - Tony - 09-11-2021, 02:02 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Frank Booth - 09-11-2021, 02:15 PM
RE: It's a passing league - TheLeonardLeap - 09-11-2021, 02:23 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Nately120 - 09-11-2021, 03:04 PM
RE: It's a passing league - TheLeonardLeap - 09-11-2021, 03:09 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Nately120 - 09-11-2021, 03:10 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Tony - 09-11-2021, 03:32 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Murdock2420 - 09-11-2021, 03:39 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Whatever - 09-11-2021, 04:58 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Frank Booth - 09-11-2021, 05:25 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Synric - 09-11-2021, 05:58 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Frank Booth - 09-11-2021, 06:00 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Murdock2420 - 09-12-2021, 01:06 AM
RE: It's a passing league - Whatever - 09-12-2021, 01:47 AM
RE: It's a passing league - Murdock2420 - 09-12-2021, 02:41 AM
RE: It's a passing league - Synric - 09-12-2021, 11:01 AM
RE: It's a passing league - Murdock2420 - 09-12-2021, 11:09 AM
RE: It's a passing league - Synric - 09-12-2021, 11:19 AM
RE: It's a passing league - Whatever - 09-11-2021, 08:55 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Frank Booth - 09-11-2021, 09:22 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Nately120 - 09-12-2021, 12:36 AM
RE: It's a passing league - CJD - 09-11-2021, 05:04 PM
RE: It's a passing league - KillerGoose - 09-11-2021, 06:08 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Tony - 09-11-2021, 05:53 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Frank Booth - 09-11-2021, 05:55 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Sled21 - 09-11-2021, 06:38 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Stewy - 09-11-2021, 09:12 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Joelist - 09-12-2021, 12:40 AM
RE: It's a passing league - JaggedJimmyJay - 09-12-2021, 12:43 AM
RE: It's a passing league - Sled21 - 09-12-2021, 10:51 AM
It's a passing league - The D.O.Z. - 09-12-2021, 11:57 AM
RE: It's a passing league - Bengalitis - 09-12-2021, 12:01 PM
RE: It's a passing league - Murdock2420 - 09-12-2021, 06:20 PM

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