Watch this video: police at the house

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(11-10-2015, 01:14 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: My apologies, when I see someone type or hear someone say "what's the point of having...?" I tend to infer that the sentiment is that the thing they are referring to having is being negated in their view. That's the typical implication I have encountered.

I also, like SCS, believe that everyone would like our rights to be respected from the start. However, resisting, even peacefully, will not create the desired effect. At the point you are resisting your rights would have already been violated (if they, in fact, were) so you are doing nothing but escalating the situation and exacerbating the problem.

(11-10-2015, 01:15 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: Right, but when we point out how you should utilize those rights, you get perturbed and argumentative.  To me it seems that you are asking for country wide perfection and fail to realize that your rights are there to protect your from the fact that perfection does not exist.  Walking through life expecting that every encounter with every person police or civilian will be conducted in a perfect manner is kinda high school.  An adult recognizes when hi/her rights are being violated and responds accordingly.  Whether or not the office is correct in his or her detention of the individual is a separate issue to resisting arrest.  They will be handled separately in the end as well.  Think on that.  The officers actions do not excuse yours.

(11-10-2015, 01:21 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: One of the best posts I've read in this forum.  I'll also add that while you may feel your rights are being violated the officer arresting you may know more about the law or the situation than you do.  While there is certainly overreach it is not nearly as common or pervasive as the current climate would lead you to believe.  The bottom line is that if you keep calm and comply you will win 90% of the time, probably more.  If an officer does violate your civil rights then prepare yourself for a nice payday, just don't assume you're automatically correct about what your rights are under the current situation because you watched a video on youtube once.

Got it.  Expecting rights to be respected by those you know the law is being naive.  And because we can sue its ok if your rights are violated because you can (hope) that they will be recognized on the back end...with a payday.  

Guess I'm just too idealistic for the real world.