09-29-2021, 06:16 PM
(09-29-2021, 04:29 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Cunningham, Vick, and Jackson are on a different level.I feel like we're splitting hairs here but I don't necessarily disagree with any of that. But considering both Elway and Tarkington are in the top 10 all-time in nearly every rushing stat I'm not sure how anyone could argue they were good running QBs.
Even though Russell Wilson rushed for 900 yards one year he still is not in the same class as those 3. And Russ is a better passer.
Steve Young was an elite, not just "good", running QB but most people don't remember that bevause of his passing game and low number of carries.
Elway and Tarkington were more just great "scramblers" than running QBs.
Bobby Douglas was just mote of a RB who played QB one year.
Again, like I said in my previous post. Its a matter of personal perspective.
The outliers you mentioned in you first sentence are so far on the periphery of normal that it skews our perspective of what we expect a running QB to be.
The game has changed making 30 to 40 TD passes a year more the norm than an outlier. When I was young Dan Mario was the best and known as a prolific passer. He had 6 straight seasons with 21 to 28 TDs. That was a lot but means very little in today's game. Does that mean he wasn't a great passing QB?
Yes I purposely left out his first 3 seasons to make a point. He was still considered great even when he wasn't throwing over 30 TDs a year. Those were extreme outliers in his time and you could argue even more impressive than a 50 TD year today.
