Poll: Over Joe
Josh Allen
Lamar Jackson
Patrick Mahomes
Dak Prescot
Trevor Lawrence
Justin Herbert
Kylar Murray
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QBs over Burrow
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(10-18-2021, 10:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Before we found out Watson was a perv I suggested trading JB for him. It appears one of those few times bfine didn't get it right.

So the question is:

Economics aside which young QB(s) would you take over JB.

The above poll allows you to vote for up to 3.

I never like comparing QBs at their 2nd or 3rd year even.  They all come in to very different situations and coaching.  

Mahommes had a year to learn and plays for Andy Reid with the best (IMHO) WR in the game and the best (IMHO) TE in the game.  He has been amazing but this year it is as though the entire team is bored and only starts to get really in to the game when they are trailing late.  Based on resume, he is the best out there.  Would I trade him for Burrow today?  Even though I will be called a homer for this, I wouldn't.  We need to see how he plays when the cost of his contract impacts the roster even more.  We saw that he wasn't special when his line isn't special.  It is impossible to know this, but could he have done better with what Burrow had the past 16 games, if he didn't get to sit for a year, and had two straight years of no preseason to start his career?  I don't know.  

Jackson is the best pure running QB I have ever seen.  Never seems to take a big hit, either, which takes care of my initial "You can't run an offense like that for long" argument.  The biggest knock on him has been his ability to throw a team back to a win from behind, but he sure did that against the Colts.  I still like Burrow for his abiliity to read defenses and change plays.  Lamar is still living dangerously and one hit can change his career.  

Herbert is amazing in terms of his size, arm, and mobility but I have no idea how much of his success is the scheme from his coach and how much is his ability to read a defense.  He sure struggled against the Ratbirds.   Remember how RGIII was setting the league on fire his rookie season with the read-option but then when teams adjusted he couldn't?  I can't help but think that he might deal with some of the same things.  Goff got to a Super Bowl (!) under McVay but then struggled mightily as teams adjusted.  Still, he is a machine and hasn't had the most amazing roster around him.

Murray is a physical freak and can just outrun and outmaneuver in space.  However, I can't fall in love with a QB that is maybe 5'10" with inserts in his shoes.  I love to see him be successful as it shows how much a creative coach can do, but I feel like he is limited.  

Josh Allen has risen tremendously after his first year, which is a credit to him and his coaches.  He is, like Herbert, a physical freak.  Big, strong, fast, and has a cannon for an arm.  He is actually my favorite of the group so far.  I feel like he has a cupcake division with Miami and NYJ, but the kid got to the AFC Championship game in his 2nd season and while he has talent around him, it isn't as strong as the Chiefs.   His line isn't as strong, either.  

Would I trade any of them for Burrow TODAY?  No.  No one that played their first year had a better first 16 games than Joe and had less talent around him.  Now that we have a solid roster, we are seeing what the kid can do, and he is getting better each week.  
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QBs over Burrow - bfine32 - 10-18-2021, 10:42 PM
RE: QBs over Burrow - KillerGoose - 10-18-2021, 10:46 PM
RE: QBs over Burrow - LSUfaninTN - 10-19-2021, 10:22 PM
RE: QBs over Burrow - Go Cards - 10-18-2021, 10:51 PM
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