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Elephant in the Room
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(11-04-2021, 04:25 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Yeah, it’s definitely overblown. It was just a different era. If anything, it MIGHT come from 1999 on. That’s as far back as I can go with my database, but from 1999-2010, Favre had an INT% of 3.25% whereas the league average dipped to 2.9%. His INT% stayed constant as the league improve. Even still, it’s a 10% difference.

If we’re going to bring up real turnover machines, we can talk about Dilfer. He just wasn’t very good overall lol.

Good ol' Dilfer. Teams were more patient back then. He was awful for his first few years, and peaked as a serviceable starter, but if you ever had a season with 4 TDs to 18 picks these days, you'd never see the field again.

(11-04-2021, 04:26 PM)Au165 Wrote: True, however his TD% is also well above league average (8.1% vs 4.8% avg) so he has kind of morphed into this gunslinger. He has even said he takes more chances with the defense we have so I don't think the either increase is by coincidence. He isn't in Jameis Winston territory (4.8% INT rate to 5.3% TD rate) from a couple years ago so I am not sure it's really a concern at this point

I'm not hating on the guy. Even with the picks, he's having a fantastic season. I'm just isolating the INT's and talking about whether it's a problem or not. Not trying to be a jerk, but Idk if saying "at least he isn't 30 int Jameis Winston" is all that comforting. It can still be an issue if he's throwing 20 picks every year trying to force the issue.

Not saying that's going to be the case. Just saying that it can and has been an issue at times, when a guy is throwing INTs fairly frequently. We've just been so explosive now that it hasn't mattered as much. That said, it was pretty costly in OT vs GB and a couple other times. Which makes me wonder if he'll throw 1-2 in the playoffs, which would be a backbreaker against the best teams.
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