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Elephant in the Room
(11-08-2021, 03:52 PM)jj22 Wrote: Marvin has been vindicated by the complete collapse without him around. I bet he saw this coming a mile away. He'd be a fool to return after we "forgot" what the Bengals were prior to him, when we hoped for a new HC. 

Normally I agree with you, but we're better this year than any of Marvin's last 3 seasons. The collapse began in the 2015 playoff game, and the drafting of guys like Ogbuehi and Fisher contributed heavily after that. Both Marvin picks.

Also, the guy had nearly 20 years, with 7 teams good enough to make the playoffs, but he couldn't win a single playoff game. It was BEYOND time. If Zac isn't the guy, that doesn't = Marv was.
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