12/7 - Terrorist attack

[Dill]

(12-15-2021, 12:27 PM)michaelsean Wrote: You think 50 million people believe it was stolen and are on some sort of rabid mission to see it righted?  No.  Most people aren't that determined about anything.  

As for Fox news, it looks like he gets about three million viewers a night.  What do you think, maybe 1/3 are doing research?  So that's two million.  Not a whole lot of people.

Tucker alone got some 4.3 million a night during the second quarter of 2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson_Tonight

4 million viewers a night doesn't mean ONLY 4 million ever, same people every night. And in addition to Fox tv programming, there are its radio shows and the audiences of even further right news sources such as Newsmax and OANN.  Many have rejected Fox in favor of more radical sources, including blogs.

The 50 million+ GOP voters who believe the election was stolen--that number is derived from polling which has held steady since 6/1. 

You added the adjective "rabid." Those fifty million+ do not each and everyone need to be on a "mission." All they have to do is 1) believe the lie, 2) not object when "rabid" leadership replaces state election officials who won't do Trump's bidding, and 3) of course vote. That could be enough in enough swing states to throw the election for Trump.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/13/briefing/anti-democratic-movement-us-politics.html

. . . An anti-democratic movement, inspired by Donald Trump but much larger than him, is making significant progress, as my colleague Charles Homans has reported. In the states that decide modern presidential elections, this movement has already changed some laws and ousted election officials, with the aim of overturning future results. It has justified the changes with blatantly false statements claiming that Biden did not really win the 2020 election.

The movement has encountered surprisingly little opposition. Most leading Republican politicians have either looked the other way or supported the anti-democratic movement. In the House, Republicans ousted Liz Cheney from a leadership position because she called out Trump’s lies.

The pushback within the Republican Party has been so weak that about 60 percent of Republican adults now tell pollsters that they believe the 2020 election was stolen — a view that’s simply wrong....

All of which has created a remarkable possibility: In the 2024 presidential election, Republican officials in at least one state may overturn a legitimate election result, citing fraud that does not exist, and award the state’s electoral votes to the Republican nominee. Trump tried to use this tactic in 2020, but local officials rebuffed him.

Since then, his supporters have launched a campaign — with the Orwellian name “Stop the Steal” — to ensure success next time. Steve Bannon has played a central role, using his podcast to encourage Trump supporters to take over positions in election administration, ProPublica has explained.

“This is a five-alarm fire,” Jocelyn Benson, the Democratic secretary of state in Michigan, who presided over the 2020 vote count there, told The Times. “If people in general, leaders and citizens, aren’t taking this as the most important issue of our time and acting accordingly, then we may not be able to ensure democracy prevails again in ’24.”