Big Ben's Retiring........

[Murdock2420]

(12-15-2021, 12:38 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: A big factor is Championships too... And he has as many as any of them not named brady.

But why should a team achievement have any impact on the merit of a player going to the HoF.

There have been QBs that won a Super Bowl that certainly don't belong in the hall. Eli Manning has just as many rings as Ben and was also a 2 time Super Bowl MVP, but no one says future Hall of Famer Eli Manning.

Ben is closer to being Eli Manning then he is to being Brady, Rodgers, Brees or Peyton Manning. So if you are putting Ben in because of two rings, then you absolutely have to put Eli in based on his 2 rings and 2 Super Bowl MVPs.

Total Yards       TDs     Comp Percent

57,023             366        60.3                Eli

63,414             415        64.5                 Ben

80,358             571        67.7                 Brees



Ben just doesn't belong.