Outstanding Accomplishment!!!

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(12-28-2021, 01:28 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: You can’t just brush off what Allen did last year and this year. Guy‘s an absolute stud. Even the first year he got the bills to the playoffs and was considered “bad”, he actually wasn’t even bad

The people who prefer Herbert are doing so because they are still stuck on last season where he managed to stay healthy and win rookie of the year

I'm not brushing off what Allen did.
My point (which I thought was obvious) was that Allen and Herbert, two guys who some consider to be better than Burrow, are not guys who have had a bunch of really good years in the league. They've really just had one prior to this season.
Allen's "coming out" party was last year, where his improvements in his mechanics really showcase how far along he came from when he was drafted.
He was not NFL-ready when he came out of college. He improved a lot since being drafted.
Herbert still probably would have had a better year than Burrow last year statistically if Burrow had played all season, but Herbert also played on a better team than Burrow last year.

Maybe I misinterpreted your point when you said, "they've been in the league longer and have played at a really high level." I interpreted that as guys living off their historical success but not actually being good this year, so I was pointing out that 1) Allen and Herbert have really only had one real big year of success prior to this season, Mahomes has been dominant since taking over as the starter a few years ago, and the only older veterans (Rodgers, Brady, Stafford) are putting up really good production to justify why they are up there.