Joey B vs Andy vibe

[Roland]

(12-28-2021, 03:42 AM)rankrank1 Wrote: In fairness to Andy his draft year was 2011 and 2011 was the year of the owner lockout if I am not mistaken.  Andy did not have anywhere near the luxury of a traditional offseason workouts or preseason time with coaches that would have been very beneficial to any rookie.  I was always impressed with Andy for doing as well as he did with out that usual prep time his rookie year.

Yes, Dalton missed out on Spring Training and off season OTAs.  But he had the playbook, could watch all the film he wanted, and could train with teammates as much as he wanted.  And he did get a full training camp with four preseason games before anyone started collecting stats that counted.

And speaking of stats, besides having the support of a much better defense, Dalton debuted with a much better offensive line featuring Whitworth, Smith, and Williams along with (cough) Livings and Cook.  Dalton took just 24 sacks all season while Burrow was sacked 32 times in just 11 games.

Andy Dalton joined a much better team than Joe Burrow.   The Bengals didn't need a complete rebuild in 2011 because they didn't have the talent to win.  They had a meltdown in leadership.

I'm not dissing Dalton in any way.   I was happy with the pick at the time and even in hindsight it was clearly our best option.  His start was impressive for a rookie.  I still think that we had good reason to hope that he could deliver on one of those playoff trips.  It's just a pity that he missed out on what would have been his best opportunity in '15.  

Quote:Fair or not my expectations are way different for a Number 1 overall pick as compared to a rather late 2nd round pick.  Comparing Burrow to Andy is pointless and ragging on Andy serves no purpose at all.  I like Burrow better than any QB to ever wear a Bengal uniform so far.  I am old enough to have seen most of them from Anderson till now.  Kenny Anderson would be my 2nd choice as next best Bengal QB hands down.

Dalton was the 35th pick that year.  Not much different than a late first round pick.  Funny how many of the QBs picked before Dalton in '11 actually fell below the Dalton Line.

I don't consider it to be ragging on Andy to just observe that Joe Burrow is just on another level.