Joey B vs Andy vibe

[Shake n Blake]

(12-29-2021, 03:07 AM)Roland Wrote: I provide a picture sourced from the NFL that shows and says that Andy Dalton had access to a playbook in June and you think that vague statement about "most players" sourced from ESPN establishes an alternate reality where he didn't?  What are you people, on dope?

Ok, if the NFL isn't a reliable source like ESPN, how about Cincy Jungle?

"Sometimes it's hard to remember that not so long ago, after Andy Dalton was drafted by the Cincinnati Bengals, the temporary injunction to lift the NFL lockout was back in place. From that point until about a week ago, Bengals coaches were not allowed contact with the rookie quarterback. Though he did have a playbook and though he worked out with skill players during player-only workouts earlier this month and last, there was an obvious disadvantage for rookies during the lockout."

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/7/31/2306705/jay-gruden-on-rookie-quarterback-andy-dalton-he-ran-the-show

"Gruden couldn't unveil his playbook to the entire offensive until the first day of training camp at Georgetown College, the day after Chad Ocho Cinco, the Bengals' all-time leading receiver, got dealt to the Patriots."

https://www.bengals.com/news/can-the-2020-burrow-bengals-replicate-the-2011-lockout-lads

So let's recap:
1. New offense
2. The players (including Andy) didn't have playbooks (except during a couple of brief workout periods)
3. Most offseason activities were cancelled

What are we even arguing here? Do you really think the 2011 lockout wasn't a major hindrance for rookies? ESPN thought so. Bengals.com thought so. But not Roland, eh? Btw, being able to peek at someone else's playbook doesn't = Andy had one himself. Which was my point. Unless you think he (and everyone else) was able to digest an entire playbook during a couple of workout sessions.

If so, way to go Andy.