11-18-2015, 03:39 PM
(11-18-2015, 10:48 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: ISIL isn't living in the 1300's. They are using some 'time honored' Islamic practices and tactics such as slavery, torture and terror to get what they want. But then again, what people in the Middle East haven't done that? For ISIL, these tactics are just tools to accomplish their true goal: to establish their own country. It is a power grab, pure and simple. They are less concerned with exporting terror at this point than Al Quida. But they are in competition with Al Quida for nutcase Islamic recruits (despite how it seems over there, the true nutcases just don't grow on trees). We know this because ISIL and Al Quida members have little tit-for-tat namecalling fights on twitter and Facebook in order to "impress" potential recruits (BTW- If you haven't seen these, you should check them out. It is like what goes on here in P&R, only with people who act like 10 year olds). This competition for recruits was the reason for the Paris attack. ISIL is trying to draw recruits from the disgruntled Muslim youths in Europe (and there are literally millions there). They want to be seen by those youths as pro-active. The hatred of the Muslim youths in Europe is directed at the societies where they live. ISIL's play is a demonstration to show these youths that they care about their concerns in order to hook them into their own cause of creating a new state and recruit them as frontline fighters in Syria. And, to a degree, it is working. Muslim youths are leaving Europe to go and fight in Syria. Incidently, ISIL is winning the war of recruiting with Al Quida. ISIL offers recruits @$700 per month with a benefits plan (yes, they are actually offering a benefits plan). Al Quida can only offer @$300 per month.
It has nothing to do with Christianity. Neither ISIL nor Al Quida nor the Muslim youths in Europe nor Europeans nor Americans view Western Europe as 'Christian'. Western Europe is increasingly seen as secular at this point.
I am not saying they see Europe as Christian. I am saying they see the map as it was in the 1300's. They are still trying to spread their religion by forcing it on people by overwhelming them by force. The Byzantine's never used force to spread their religion. They did use a cultural attack instead of by force to spread into the east. By the monks printing their bibles in Cyrillic. Today they are trying to spread Islam in a similar way.... By just overwhelming the population and by erasing them by birth rates. Which are always going to be higher considering western civilizations push abortion.
They seem using both the population overload method and killing method... to be attacking the same path as in the crusades. And it's odd that traditional christian cities are being attacked either by the flood of Islamic followers or by terrorism or both.
This is also why Russia has taken a stronger anti Islamic position. To set up to regain their territory while They are also funding anti immigrant groups all over Europe as the European Union and governments are doing nothing to slow down the migrant invasion.
I can't remember where you said it but you are correct on the borders and how Isis doesn't recognize them, Sykes-picot was put into place to keep them fighting each other and basically why Iraq was even made....
This is why these areas needs a hard core secular dictator . They have not evolved enough to accept a civil society of peace.
