Joe Rogan apologises for using N-word and racist Planet of the Apes story

[Dill]

(02-08-2022, 06:59 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Quote:But that "unknowing" racist is the corollary of any conception of "systemic racism" that I am aware of. Keeping that unknowing unknown is the only way systemic racism can continue, and critique from it be deflected, in a liberal democracy founded on natural equality. 

Again, incorrect.  Your entire premise is based on the flawed assertion that unknowingly committing a racist act makes a person a closet or "unknowing" racist.  You can certainly have unconscious biases, but you absolutely cannot be an unknowing racist.

You admit that people may "certainly have unconscious biases." 

Can you also admit that unconscious biases may influence people's actions--unconsciously?  
(Really, no point in calling them "biases" if they have no effect on behavior.)

If the answer is yes, then mightn't some of these biases be "racist" in nature?  If not, then why not?

If you do grant that some unconscious biases may be racist in nature, and that people may unknowingly act on unconscious biases, 
then you must also grant that

1. people can "commit racist acts" unconsciously--i.e, unknowingly, or

2. that racist acts committed unconsciously aren't, then, really racist acts.  

#1 might help explain why Black families cannot get housing loans so readily as white families with similar levels of income, and why black drivers might be more frequently stopped than white for "routine" checks. And it might help foot policies for redress.
https://www.zillow.com/research/black-denial-rate-hmda-2020-30510/
https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/black-drivers-more-likely-to-be-stopped-by-police.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/us/missouri-traffic-stops-black-drivers-trnd/index.html

#2 might help explain--what? Nothing. Certainly not the discriminatory behaviors and effects just described. Or at best it would define them out of existence. Excuse them. Useless for policy.  Yet this seems to be the option you are invested in.