Are we being realistic with Free Agency expectations?

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(02-21-2022, 12:18 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: My very first reply to you I said Zeitler was a solid starting guard.

If you're convinced that neither would be on the Bengals after 5 years, what does it matter what they are doing now for other teams? We don't draft players caring what they'll do for other teams later in their careers, just what they do in a Bengals uniform.

Yes, Zeitler and DeCastro were single-handedly responsible for their teams records their rookie years. I'm sure it had nothing to do with the Bengals getting AJ Green, Andy Dalton, Clint Boling, Jermaine Gresham, Carlos Dunlap, and Geno Atkins in the previous two drafts. By that absurd logic the Bengals went 2-7-1 with Burrow his rookie year, the Dolphins went 6-3 with Tua his rookie year. Nobody is ever or was ever taking Tua over Burrow.

I have no idea who the advisor is, and yeah, the answer is to not listen to Mike Brown or the shitty former OL coach. The guy is an OL consultant for the German Football League now. Seriously. The last 3 guys we know that Mike Brown wanted were... Jackson Carman, John Ross, and he wanted Ryan Mallett over Andy Dalton (at least Jay Gruden had the balls to stop him).

Agree Zeitler was solid and yes we all know MB does not pay interior OL and is why he foolishly allowed Zeitler to walk and DeCastro would have commanded more money even. So pretty sure he would have walked too, I mean he even let Whit walk this same year. 

Yes these players are not solely responsible for teams record but are partly. We needed an OG and he helped immediately. 

steelers years leading up were  2010,  12-4 in Super Bowl, 2011, 12-4 playoffs, 2012, 8-8 no playoffs after drafting DeCastro
The Bengals in same years ......2010,  4-12 ,....................2011,  9-7 wildcard,  2012,  12-4 playoffs after Zeitler and Sanu

The steelers had 1,537 yds rushing this year and ....30 sacks in 449 attempts once every 14 passes with HOF QB
The Bengals had 1,745 yds rushing this season and 46 sacks in 528 attempts once every 11 passes with 2nd year QB

steelers RB's accounted for 7 TD's 
Bengals RB's accounted for 11 TD's

Before Tua's injury he was certainly ranked higher than Burrow, not that I would switch though. 
Would also add that if your using the prior drafts to say Zeitler did not help as much as record would suggest, then you would have to include all the additions Burrow received that helped Bengals record to leap forward this year would you not ?

Also Sanu only touched the ball 22 times his rookie season getting 16 receptions, 5 rushes, and 1 pass attempted.

Yet he did score TD on 25% of his catches with 4 TD's and on 100% of his passes for another TD. That is 5 TD's where the entire steelers RB's only accounted for 7 TD's total behind their greatest interior OL in franchise history. 

Also we can all agree that the ProBowl is somewhat a popularity contest with the steelers being way more popular than the Bengals. 

2021 PFF Ranking Zeitler 77.0 , DeCastro 0.0 

Maybe its just the advisor was right but Piano Man was worse at coaching him up than the steelers coaches were in the years to follow. 

Yet will concede that you win and are correct, yet just don't see it so cut and dry as you claim. Kind of like analytics.