Center JC Tretter

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(03-16-2022, 06:51 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Those numbers don't add up. You can't guarantee a guy $10m, pay him $3m in Year 1, and then only have $1m dead cap if you cut him in Year 2. That would be $4m in guaranteed money, not $10m. Where's the other $6m vanishing to? When you cut a guy, that $9m signing bonus still needs to be paid through a cap hit and you've only done 1/3rd of it. In your scenario, if you convert $9m of it into a signing bonus you'd have at least a $6m dead cap hit if you cut him after 2022 (and a minimum of ~$4m or so in 2021, he has to make the vet min which is ~$1m as a base salary, and then $3m as 1/3rd of the $9m signing bonus).

Not to mention we do lose something if it falls through. We lose the opportunity to sign a CB who is less of a gamble. That is a huge something. We're not the 2018 Bengals who are just gambling on maybe we find a good player cheap but if not so what no biggie. The 2022 Bengals are aiming for a Super Bowl. So the "if not" is actually then you have Jalen Davis as your starting CB on a team with SB aspirations. That is a huge loss. Now is not the time to be gambling on guys who haven't played productive football since 2019, that's what you do when you're not trying for a Lombardi.


Your plan: $9m cap hit this year, see if he is any good, if he's not take another $6m in cap hits in 2023 for him to not play for you.
Cutting him: $5m cap hit this year, sign someone else.

9 million bonus in year one paid out is then spread out over 3 years so in 2022, yes only 3 million cap hit versus 11 million. The issue for us would come in year 2 with dead money if we cut him, we would have 1 million in dead money, but would have reached the 10 million guarantee which is less than the 11 million we would have paid him in 2022. Yep, he takes a pay cut or loses almost 11 million in 2022 from us. How much in 2022 do you think Waynes could get on the open market in 2022? I say no more than 3 to 4 million guaranteed from another team