03-30-2022, 02:03 PM
(03-29-2022, 09:59 PM)Sled21 Wrote: As I said earlier today, people chose sides last year and chose criminals over the police. Now they have to deal with the consequences of those decisions. Get ready for a hot summer.
It will certainly be a case of having to lie in the bed you made.
(03-30-2022, 08:51 AM)GMDino Wrote: These two quotes are part of the problem I have with this whole thing.
First, it's sad that the pendulum swung so far the other way.
Secondly, rather than working together to sole the problem we have a group that say "you made your bed, lay in it".
If people join the police only to go where they are completely respected vs going into the job to make the place safer perhaps they shouldn't join at all? If the current force and the current administration and the current public can't work together that's one thing. But it would seem from this thread that people are genuinely happy that crime is up and that no one is going to step up to help either.
I know, I know. I'm an idealist who believes people can overcome their differences to reach agreements and make things better. I'm a silly goose.
When did law enforcement officers become a separate species? Everyone wants to be treated with a modicum of respect in the workplace. We are certainly used to the criminals not liking us, there's obvious reasons for it and, in their eyes, we're the reason they're getting arrested. But to have common citizenry, and even worse, your own government, treat you like shit? What person on Earth would want to work under those conditions? Would you work at a place where you were constantly treated like shit? Why do you think LEO's should just deal with it?
(03-30-2022, 09:43 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: Be honest with yourself. Did you really think things would have turned out any differently? And don't blame the police for not wanting to work in a hostile environment. Doesn't mean they should rethink their purpose for their career. It means they ain't stupid.
A-effing-men.
(03-30-2022, 09:49 AM)GMDino Wrote: Well, like I said, I'm an idealist. I'd rather see both sides come together but I am honest enough to know the radicals on both ends won't.
I honestly think over time this can be resolved and progress can be made to both make Seattle safer and the police better.
I don't think they are stupid. I think that if they want to police they should want to make their hometown better. I think that if they ONLY want to be where they get no push back that's a problem too.
You use this argument all the time with policing, the "it's what you signed up for" line of thinking so prevalent among the far left. No one signs up to be treated like garbage. No amount of idealism is going to withstand years of abuse. We already die at much earlier ages then non LEO's. I can't tell you how many friends have retired and not lasted two years after. If you truly want to see things improve then start with yourself and realize LEO's are human like anyone else. They don't get to be treated like crap because "that's what they signed up for". Did you even read the article in OP? It explains rather well why well intentioned, and highly committed, officers would leave a situation like Seattle's.
