Mass Shooting at San Antonio Elementary School

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(05-28-2022, 06:41 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: The reason I ignore the effects of Australia's NFA is because the evidence isn't clear with them. There were observable declines in suicides and homicides by firearm, but they were not statistically significant. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6187796/

Because of other factors surrounding efforts to reduce suicide rates in Australia, plus an already existing decline in firearm homicide rates pre-NFA, there is no way to say with any confidence that the NFA had any causal effect on suicide or homicide rates in Australia.

OK sorry for picking that up after considerable time has passed. I usually avoid that topic altogether. I might just be in a mood to go way over my head today. Which is why I say this: I wonder if that's not an example where one could quite easily pick the study that delivers the desired result.

There are other studies that have different findings, like this one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2704353/  --- clearly saying among other things that "Figure 1G and table 3 indicate that although the rate per 100 000 of total firearm deaths was reducing by an average of 3% per year, this rate doubled to 6% after the introduction of gun laws". So, gun laws, right.

...or this one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6187769/ ---which concludes that "The rate of firearm homicides in Australia is dramatically lower than that in the United States not because Australia banned semiautomatic rifles and implemented a buy-back program but because there was a greater degree of control of who had access to firearms even before passage of the NFA." - and if I hold that opinion, I have a study to back that up too.

And all three studies are all from the same publisher. There are so many more out there, all looking quite serious. Most seem to side with the opinion that some form of gun control is shown to have some measurable effect at least.


(btw. the last study might be a bit simplistic, but makes a claim that made me wonder about "your" study, even if i'm not nearly versed enough to even grasp most of the methods described. "Your" study behaves as if regarding gun laws, there was simply a time "before NFA" and "after NFA"; which doesn't seem quite right to me. But again, what do I know.)