Admit you voted for Biden

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(06-20-2022, 02:44 PM)Tiger Blood Wrote: it's not greed buddy. it's capitalism. it's free market. it's taking responsibilty. it's what this nation was built on. if you want something, you work for it. you make sacrifices. you succeed or fail by the amount of blood, sweat and tears you put into it. you don't ask for handouts or bailouts, or freebies or free rides. in this country if you want something it'[s there for the taking. you jusy have to be willing to put in the effort and not look to everyone else to do it for you.

While I agree with that to an extent (like if you want a yacht, Mercedes, going to a sporting event, or whatever), I don't think it should be that way for basic needs like food, water, shelter, basic utilities, education, etc.

Someone should not have to work 50+ hours a week just to survive.
There's (much) more to life than work.

I assume if you see someone in need, you think they should just "pull themselves up by their bootstraps," eh?

For the record, I don't have my stance for my own sake. I don't need anything. I was $80k in debt from college and have it nearly paid off. I live in a nice house. On the verge of buying a boat. I did all of that when literally starting my first job out of college overdrafting my bank account and running on fumes until I finally got my first paycheck.
But I also acknowledge that housing costs are insane now. It's not realistic to think someone who doesn't already own a house will be able to save up 20% of a $300k+ home for 10+ years (if ever for some people). You're talking someone saving up $60k just for a down payment. Most of the population doesn't have that amount saved up. If you're renting, many places cost $1000+ a month now. You're not going to be able to afford that if you don't make $50k+ and have a few hundred bucks a month debt you have to pay. Add in a potential car payment on top of that.
People shouldn't have to sacrifice years of their lives just to get by.