Bruce Jenner to Caitlyn Jenner

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(06-05-2015, 10:19 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Oh, I think I've found the disconnect: you mean man here?

If that is what you are asking then to answer that question: No. I think she was and is a man and deserves the medals.

It's just that other suggest she has been a woman her whole life, not just the last year of her 65 on earth (we agree that those folks are wrong). I'm pretty sure she has even suggested she has identified herself as a woman for quite some time.

I just didn't realize you consider the transformation to be when they stated publicly.  What about those that are not in the public eye or never make a formal announcement?

I appreciate you finally explaining your issue with my statement. I realize that you claim that you know the definition of "gender", but saying she is a man would suggest otherwise. 

Gender is a social construct. If I identify as a gender and live as that gender, then I am that gender. If you can explain how Caitlyn isn't a woman, I'd love to hear it. Especially since you're using "she" and calling her a man in the same sentence.

Also, I too heard Caitlyn say in her interview that she privately identified as a woman for years before her "coming out". Having read up on this and knowing multiple trans people, I know that it isn't right to misgender before the person has announced it. As a member of the public and not a personal confidant of Caitlyn, it would have been incorrect for me to identify her as a woman prior to her stating it publicly.  That's why her public revelation is the correct time identify her as a woman. 

If you disagree, as a trans person you know.