QB rankings

[Shake n Blake]

(07-20-2022, 07:15 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Passing attempts? Come on Shake, I thought you were on team efficiency with me when it came to RBs and total rushing yards vs YPC. Don't jump ship when it comes to passing attempts. Lol

Heck, both Aaron Rodgers and Joe Burrow weren't top-10 in passing attempts in 2021. You know who was? Trevor Lawrence, Kirk Cousins, Ben Roethlisberger.

I'll take the guy with more TDs and less than 1/2 of the INTs. Ben led the league in INTs that year, you're going to have to throw more to catch back up when you keep turning the ball over. Also when you throw it shorter you need to throw more. Wilson averaged .6 yards more per attempt. If you are getting much more yards per attempt and you're not turning the ball over, you don't NEED to throw it a million times. (Plus Wilson had an extra 376 yards rushing at 5.6 yards per attempt.)

2018 Roethlisberger
8% Above Average YPA
13% Above Average Completion
6% Above Average TD%
League Average INT%
24% Above Average Sack% (as in, much less sacked)
8% Above Average QB Rating

2018 Wilson
17% Above Average YPA
8% Above Average Completion
40% Above Average TD%
12% Above Average INT% (which is good)
31% Below Average Sack% (he was getting murdered)
28% Above Average QB Rating

Steelers OL: Villanueva, Foster, Pouncey, DeCastro, Feiler (that's 2 All-Pros and 1 Pro Bowler)
Seahawks OL: Fant, Sweezy, Britt, Fluker, Ifedi (not even a single Pro Bowler)

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We're all adults here. Don't push your poor choices of who to defend onto me.  

Oh, efficiency matters most, but as you said, it's not the end all. For me, when I'm talking about the top 5 cream of the crop (ooh yeeeah), I need to see efficiency at high volume more often than not.

Ben often didn't have the efficiency.
Russ doesn't have the volume.

In 10 years, Wilson's average ranking in attempts is 16.2. Middle of the pack.

Meanwhile, Ben is at 10.1 (counting seasons he missed a few games, but not counting the time he missed nearly the entire season). Rodgers (not counting the 2 seasons he was mostly injured) is at 9.5. (Since 2012 for all QBs, since that's when Wilson came into the league)

I even rounded up Wilson's attempts from last season (he missed 3 games), which bumped him all the way up to 19th. Rodgers and our guy each missed a game last season. Otherwise, they would've ranked 10th and 12th in attempts, respectively.

The only season where Wilson combined great efficiency with high volume was 2020.

So to me, he's in the game manager category. A fantastic game manager, but a game manager nonetheless.

You say you need to see it again from Burrow, but Wilson himself has only had a season like that once, and he has never thrown for 4600 yards, which Burrow did in 16 games, mind you. The most Wilson has thrown for is 4219.