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(07-24-2022, 07:18 PM)Tiger Blood Wrote: people wanna talk about trumps foreign aid being held for a very short amount of time but then have no issues when aid is given to very bad actors and has for a long time. do you think the US gets anything for that? the selective outrage is hard to take it being serious. presidents have always done what they needed to do and all have done stuff that can be considered shady or dealing behind the curtains.

Have no issues, huh? Yeah, I would think again. You're not talking to someone ignorant to this sort of thing. I have a long history of denouncing our friendly relationships with places like, for example, Saudi Arabia. You seem to be missing that the aid was withheld illegally because Congress had already voted to send the aid on so Trump had no discretion over it. On top of that, he was extorting the Ukrainian president for his own personal gains. That is corruption and should be denounced by everyone. Just as any instance of corruption should be. I am 100% anti-corruption and if any elected official or bureaucrat is caught acting in a corrupt manner, I will want them out of office/fired/in prison.

None of this goes to the biggest problem with your post, though, and that is the attempt to draw false equivalencies. Has every administration had shady dealings? 100%. But none of them were to the extreme of the Trump administration. None of them. There have been worse presidents in my book, but Trump has been the most corrupt.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
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