07-25-2022, 07:11 AM
(07-24-2022, 08:17 PM)Tiger Blood Wrote: the things you would call screwups are things that most of on this side of the aisle think different about.
plus, how do you determine whats objectively bad. whats your foundation for saying that. what is your starting point that ain't subjective and gives all objectivity.
That's the thing to me that is baffling. Some of those things, like the poorly executed trade war with China, are actually contrary to conservative thought. Yet the GOP was somehow on board with it because...Trump? I don't understand how the right wing, "conservative" party was willing to throw out their ideals for the biggest grifter in U.S. politics.
Anyway, I'm not going to bother explaining why more of those things were objectively bad. If you can't understand why exposing an ally's intelligence assets to a nation that is very much not-an-ally is objectively bad, then the chances this conversation would occur in good faith are very close to zero.
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"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
