Does God exist?

[Mike M (the other one)]

(07-28-2022, 08:45 AM)hollodero Wrote: I would think the concept of what a year is is one of the earliest observations of humankind. Winter comes once a year. The Nile floods once a year. Agriculture depends on knowing when to sow, basic village logistics demand to know how long winter will be. Basically, you can't survive on any civilized level without grasping the concept of the seasons cycle.

And hence, a year seems to be a very natural form of measuring time, like the time of a lifespan. I also can not quite imagine that the concept of a year can have such vastly different interpretations throughout time.


Since this sprang from a debate whether to take the Bible literally, it just makes so much more sense to just not do that and explain 600 year lifespans this way. And many other bible stories that are on the same level of factual incredibility. They're stories, not historical depictions, they have a message, like an allegory or a lesson. That's not derogatory or offensive towards religion, it's the only logical take in a logical world.

I understand what you are saying, problem is that Adam and Eve never needed clothes.... which means they most likely lived in a tropical area close to the equator. Those areas typically only have 2 seasons, wet and dry with very little temperature fluctuation. So how do you calculate a year where there is no winter cycle? So their concept of time, was likely radically different than what we know of today.

The earliest forms of written math was done by the Sumerians in 3000 BC. Pythagoras didn't come around til 500 BC, which ultimately put us on the path to where we are today, but it still took time to evolve into an advanced state, prior to that, it was basically simple math. Until Cities came into the picture, i doubt people had a need to learn how to count in big numbers.

Yo, Mr Smith, i'd like to order 200 spears, we sick and tired of that 90 ft long snake... oh.. there's only 5 of us??? Well shoot, just make spears til we all have one. And for each one, we will bring you a bushel of bananas... You say you don't know what a bushel is, and your sick of bananas and nuts.... FINE Eve found this new shiny red edible thing growing from a tree, we'll bring you some of those instead.