08-23-2022, 09:21 AM
(08-23-2022, 08:17 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: So much wrong on this post...you might read mine again. There is a calculation for the franchise tag for each position. This was agreed to by the NFLPA. Bates refuses to sign it and practice to this point, posturing that he will sit out the entire season. This changed the way the Bengals approached the draft.
As far as the Bengals original offer being below market, that is accurate only in terms of what was guaranteed. The total value of the contract through its conclusion was very fair. No one else on the team got a high 2nd year guarantee, but suddenly Bates should because...he played well in the postseason? Tell me why he earns that over guys like Chido or Hilton? Secondly, you need to show me evidence of when the Bengals didn't honor a contract to a star player. Show me a case where a guy was injured and was released out of his contract, saving the Bengals millions and the player losing out.
I don't know where to start with your connection between Bates being at every practice and having his shittiest season.
I personally believe his agent is screwing Bates with this bad advice and posturing about sitting out the season. You can believe otherwise, but I see a guy more concerned with his own reputation about getting unprecedented guarantees (which will NOT help the sport at all) rather than securing a future for the player.
I sincerely hopes Bates is back soon and plays starting week 1. I still believe he is a critical piece of this puzzle and it would be very fun to watch him and Hill together.
Again so many issues with your take.
#1 Just because the NFLPA negotiated the tag amount does not mean a player has to sign the tag. Bates never said he had an issue with the amount the tag paid.
#2. You are not taking into account important dates. The draft is well before the July 15th cutoff date to negotiate new contracts for tagged players.
#3 Bates is not sitting out the entire season. Nobody cares what is leaked from the agents, it is all negotiating tactics that we see every off season amongst various teams.
#4 The Bengals history of honoring contracts has zero to do with Bates' desire for more guaranteed money. Not to mention we just broke a contract with a very expensive injured player this past season...
#5. You have no idea what the offer was from the Bengals other than the guaranteed amount, no one does, as it has never been released.
#6 Why are you trying to convince me Bates shouldnt want more guaranteed money since others didnt get it? That has zero relevance to Bates own deal and I have never advocated for overpaying Bates - but I do understand the situation.
#7.What a weird take to think that Bates is concerned about the guaranteed aspect due to his reputation... seriously? I enjoy and agree with most of your posts but this makes zero sense?
I agree Bates and Hill will be very enjoyable and hopefully Bates plays lights out for us this season.
