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What Vegas and the National Media is not talking about
(08-29-2022, 02:37 PM)Synric Wrote: Your argument is the defense had nothing to do with Patrick Mahomes bad second half. You are saying that Mahomes went from a nearly perfect first half to one of the worst second half by an in NFL history just because he started playing bad. You have repeatedly said the defense had nothing to do with this change because Kurt Warner said there was plays that could be made.


You'res so very wrong. The Defense adjusted there are tons of videos out there showing the rotating coverages and the changes from the first and second half you are ignoring all of this trying to argue the Bengals just got "lucky". 

There really isnt a point arguing because you really dont know what you are talking about. You are just repeating Kurt Warner said Mahomes did this but he should have done this but your neglecting one major question WHY did Mahomes do what he did compared to what Warner was showing after the fact.

Yep.

(08-29-2022, 02:59 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Warner's video defeats your own argument. I don't know if you just skim over stuff and don't take the time to get the whole picture or if you purposely leave things out because it counters your narrative. Either way...terrible look, which leads to terrible takes.

You should have listened more carefully to EVERYTHING Warner was saying and showing in the breakdowns:

On the 4th down right before half, he says 'great stop. great defense.' 

On the first play he shows in the 2nd half - 'take away what they like to do - really, really tough - good adjustment by the Bengals'.

On the second play - the pocket is collapsing in the end zone, can't take his normal depth before throwing it, forced to check down. Again. solid defense that produced a favorable result. Warner -  'a lot of factors there'.

The 3rd play - 'they have him outnumbered on both sides, so there's really nothing for Mahomes to do. Another good adjustment by the Bengals'. Great coverage again by the Bengals that left Mahomes with no real option except throwing it away.

The 4th play - Great man coverage across the board. Warner on the coverage - 'tough'.

The 5th play - Mahomes falls for a look that he saw earlier and completely misreads what the Bengals did out of the look this time. 

6th play - Mahomes doesn't take the easy swing pass to the back and gets sacked because of great coverage again by the Bengals. 

7th play - Bad technique by Mahomes results in not completing a short attempt. Once again, solid coverage downfield.

8th play - Mahomes is hesitant due to the coverage, Warner - 'maybe you could've made a play, maybe not'. Results in sack.

9th play - Solid Tampa 2 coverage. Kelce comes open for a second as a 3rd option, but a defender closing on him and Mahomes doesn't trust making that throw. Results in another sack.

10th play - Mahomes just made a bad throw. 

11th play - Apple jumps the route. Good defensive play. 

12th play - Tremendous coverage. Warner - 'good throw, great defense'. 

Yeah, even Kurt doesn't agree with what Fred is saying according to all of this.

He believes we played great Defense in the 2nd half which we did. Everyone agrees except Fred. He is a lonely guy lol
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RE: What Vegas and the National Media is not talking about - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-29-2022, 03:28 PM

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