12-08-2015, 02:17 AM
(12-07-2015, 10:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It is a shame that this thread has led us down the all to common debate of God. 14 people left for a Christmas party on that day and did not return. Hell the killers themselves left a child orphaned. This was not simply because of God and it was not because a lack of God; it was because a couple impressionable people were swayed into thinking that Americans are their enemy. It is a theme I see sprinkled throughout this thread as well.
Are you shitting me? The killers were religious terrorists who killed others based upon their misguided belief in a god. So you think it is shameful to discuss god in this context because you don't think god was somehow involved with religious terrorism? Am I understanding you correctly?
Quote:Could God have caused the whole ordeal to be avoided? Absolutely, Could God have guided the killers to return to their car instead of continuing the killing spree throughout the entire complex? Absolutely. Could God have guided the law Officers to the killers location and stopped the killers before they could commit another act; as appears was their plan? Absolutely. Or he could have simply sat back and watched
So god can harden Pharaoh's heart and destroy Egypt to demonstrate his own glory. But, when it comes to mass murder he is just going to sit back and observed?
Quote:If folks was to "blame" folks for extending prayers to the victims and their families; then that is a problem with them; not the ones offering condolences in the most sincere way they know how. It is a fact that many believe in the power of prayer and those that look to condemn it are being hateful and bigoted.
Folks aren't "blaming" folks for extending prayers in the most sincere way they know how. Politicians who tweet about what they are going to pray for aren't even the ones sending their tweets. Their staff writes and send the tweets for them. If they believe in the power of prayer, why don't they prayer for god to end the gun violence? If the prayers do have power, why don't they work?
