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Why no Dax Hill?
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(09-22-2022, 04:09 PM)J24 Wrote: This whole post is nonsense. 

 Bates has proven to be an elite safety.  Hell nine months ago he was a key piece on  a superbowl run.
He was considered the best Safety in Football in 2020 by PFF 

Saying that a rookie who only has played against backups in his Career is a better option is ridiculous notion 

Also Bates did have a pass breakup that was taken away due to penalty against the Cowboys. 

 Hill best play came when he was playing the slot and Box position. not from the Deep Safety position( and yes I know he had a pick on an overthrow at deep Safety).  If Hill is going to get snaps it won't be in place of Bates (unless Bates gets Hurt).

Andy Dalton was in the MVP conversation in '15.  That doesn't mean he was a proven elite QB.  You are proven to be elite when you play at an elite level the majority of the time.  That has never been the case with Bates.  He has periods where he plays at an elite level, but also has long stretches where he plays like garbage.  

If you want to talk PFF, he has a 59.1 grade this year after a 56.1 grade last year.  He's currently graded as one of the worst starting S's in the league and there's no reason to believe he will get dramatically better based on last year.  I've already posted the stats for Passer Rating Allowed When Targeted that disprove the "he played better the second half of last year" argument.  Hill can't be much worse than Bates currently is.  If Bates could even manage to play at average starter level, you might have a point, but he isn't, so you really don't.
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Why no Dax Hill? - pally - 09-21-2022, 05:34 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - JumboTron - 09-21-2022, 05:38 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - jason - 09-21-2022, 06:21 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - bfine32 - 09-21-2022, 08:50 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - jason - 09-21-2022, 10:19 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-21-2022, 09:27 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Destro - 09-21-2022, 06:29 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - ochocincos - 09-21-2022, 07:58 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Destro - 09-21-2022, 08:31 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - ochocincos - 09-22-2022, 10:07 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Destro - 09-22-2022, 02:37 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - BengalsBong - 09-21-2022, 11:06 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - ochocincos - 09-22-2022, 10:40 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Whatever - 09-22-2022, 12:36 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - J24 - 09-22-2022, 04:09 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Whatever - 09-22-2022, 07:01 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - J24 - 09-22-2022, 07:26 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Whatever - 09-22-2022, 10:28 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - KillerGoose - 09-23-2022, 10:58 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - jason - 09-22-2022, 12:46 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - ochocincos - 09-22-2022, 03:49 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - BengalsBong - 09-22-2022, 08:20 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - NUGDUKWE - 09-21-2022, 06:45 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Fan_in_Kettering - 09-21-2022, 07:46 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - TheLeonardLeap - 09-21-2022, 08:17 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - rfaulk34 - 09-21-2022, 09:11 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - THE PISTONS - 09-22-2022, 12:01 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Nicomo Cosca - 09-22-2022, 12:24 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - J24 - 09-22-2022, 12:43 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - TheLeonardLeap - 09-22-2022, 01:54 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - reuben.ahmed - 09-22-2022, 08:30 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - J24 - 09-22-2022, 03:26 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - KillerGoose - 09-22-2022, 05:40 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - J24 - 09-22-2022, 08:27 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - KillerGoose - 09-22-2022, 08:57 PM
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RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Nicomo Cosca - 09-21-2022, 09:04 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-21-2022, 09:26 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - JumboTron - 09-21-2022, 09:33 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-21-2022, 09:35 PM
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RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-21-2022, 11:00 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - sandwedge - 09-21-2022, 11:01 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - PhilHos - 09-22-2022, 11:06 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - fredtoast - 09-22-2022, 12:53 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Hammerstripes - 09-27-2022, 05:52 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-28-2022, 01:25 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - brian5562 - 09-21-2022, 10:41 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - J24 - 09-21-2022, 10:53 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - lone bengal - 09-22-2022, 08:23 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - reuben.ahmed - 09-22-2022, 08:29 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Sled21 - 09-22-2022, 08:32 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - reuben.ahmed - 09-22-2022, 08:35 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Sled21 - 09-22-2022, 08:39 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - fredtoast - 09-26-2022, 12:12 PM
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RE: Why no Dax Hill? - treee - 09-22-2022, 05:13 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - jj22 - 09-25-2022, 08:51 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Go Cards - 09-25-2022, 09:22 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - THE PISTONS - 09-25-2022, 10:34 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Ravage - 09-26-2022, 07:40 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - NotBigzo - 09-25-2022, 10:38 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-25-2022, 11:18 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - bfine32 - 09-25-2022, 11:24 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - TheFan - 09-25-2022, 11:25 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - fredtoast - 09-26-2022, 11:34 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Go Cards - 09-26-2022, 11:41 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Synric - 09-26-2022, 12:06 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - QueenCity - 09-26-2022, 12:14 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - M.W. - 09-27-2022, 08:30 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Nicomo Cosca - 09-26-2022, 01:48 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - CJD - 09-26-2022, 02:38 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - jj22 - 09-26-2022, 03:58 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-26-2022, 04:57 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Sled21 - 09-27-2022, 08:48 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Whatever - 09-30-2022, 02:20 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Nicomo Cosca - 09-30-2022, 02:33 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Nicomo Cosca - 09-30-2022, 01:49 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-30-2022, 06:36 PM

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