09-22-2022, 07:26 PM
(09-22-2022, 07:01 PM)Whatever Wrote: Andy Dalton was in the MVP conversation in '15. That doesn't mean he was a proven elite QB. You are proven to be elite when you play at an elite level the majority of the time. That has never been the case with Bates. He has periods where he plays at an elite level, but also has long stretches where he plays like garbage.
If you want to talk PFF, he has a 59.1 grade this year after a 56.1 grade last year. He's currently graded as one of the worst starting S's in the league and there's no reason to believe he will get dramatically better based on last year. I've already posted the stats for Passer Rating Allowed When Targeted that disprove the "he played better the second half of last year" argument. Hill can't be much worse than Bates currently is. If Bates could even manage to play at average starter level, you might have a point, but he isn't, so you really don't.
BS
He made the rookie team in 2018 and had a 79.9 PFF .01 percent from elite, he was one of the top 12 safeties in the second half of 2019, and he was regarded as the best Saftey in 2020 as mentioned earlier. To say that his play was sporadic is flat out lie and you bleeping know it.
Yeah he had a bad year in the regular season but he bounced back in the playoffs during the most important stretch his career.
Also judging him off two games where he has only been targeted three times. That is clearly not enough evidence to make a judgment on a player.
