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Why no Dax Hill?
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(09-22-2022, 07:26 PM)J24 Wrote: BS 
He made the rookie team in 2018 and had a 79.9 PFF .01 percent from elite, he was one of the top 12 safeties  in the second half of 2019, and he was regarded as the best Saftey in 2020 as mentioned earlier.  To say that his play was sporadic is flat out lie and you bleeping know it. 

Yeah he had a bad year in the regular season but he bounced back in the playoffs during the most important stretch his career.  

Also judging him off two games where he has only been targeted three times. That is clearly not enough evidence to make a judgment on a player.

PFF considers 90+ to be Elite and 85+ to be Pro Bowl quality.  79.9 falls in the mid range of Starter, which is 70-84.9.  He had a good rookie year, but nowhere close to Elite.

Bates had a 61.2 PFF grade in '19. If he was a Top 12(which still isn't really elite) S for the second half of the year like you claim, then how terrible was he the first half.  To average out at 61.2, if he was playing at an elite 91.2 level the second half, he would have to be Adeniji level bad at 31.2 the first half to average it out.  Of course, Bates had a 61.28 Passer Rating Allowed When Targeted the first half of the year and a 105.42 the second half, so your point is BS to begin with.  

PFF regarded Bates as the best S in 2020.  However, he was 2nd team All Pro, didn't make the Pro Bowl, and only ranked 90th on the NFL 100, so they're really the only ones that had him #1.  He has still never made the Pro Bowl and only made the NFL 100 once.  He is far from being unanimously regarded as an elite S, especially after last year.  

You can't sit there and constantly point to a small sample size to defend your argument (last year's playoffs), but then say others can't point to small sample sizes to defend theirs.  He looks bad so far this year, just like he was bad last year, just like he was bad in '19.  
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Why no Dax Hill? - pally - 09-21-2022, 05:34 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - JumboTron - 09-21-2022, 05:38 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - jason - 09-21-2022, 06:21 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - bfine32 - 09-21-2022, 08:50 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - jason - 09-21-2022, 10:19 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-21-2022, 09:27 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Destro - 09-21-2022, 06:29 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - ochocincos - 09-21-2022, 07:58 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Destro - 09-21-2022, 08:31 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - ochocincos - 09-22-2022, 10:07 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Destro - 09-22-2022, 02:37 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - BengalsBong - 09-21-2022, 11:06 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - ochocincos - 09-22-2022, 10:40 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Whatever - 09-22-2022, 12:36 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - J24 - 09-22-2022, 04:09 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Whatever - 09-22-2022, 07:01 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - J24 - 09-22-2022, 07:26 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Whatever - 09-22-2022, 10:28 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - KillerGoose - 09-23-2022, 10:58 AM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - jason - 09-22-2022, 12:46 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - ochocincos - 09-22-2022, 03:49 PM
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RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Nicomo Cosca - 09-26-2022, 01:48 PM
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RE: Why no Dax Hill? - jj22 - 09-26-2022, 03:58 PM
RE: Why no Dax Hill? - Housh - 09-26-2022, 04:57 PM
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