Biden - Approval

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(10-12-2022, 03:41 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: So he didn't care that people had guns in HIS rally?

He set them up to march to the Capitol, in fact telling them he will accompany them.

(10-12-2022, 03:41 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: 2,000 people had guns?

Oh. That I don't know. There were 85 indictments over carrying weapons in the Capitol. How many there actually were, beats me. Way more than the 6 people you assumed, that's for sure.
But I got your comment wrong too. About 2.000 were the number of people going to the Capitol, around 800 entered, possibly not all of them were armed.

(10-12-2022, 03:41 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: How did his security know they were armed? 

Again, were they waving them around?

Were they going around in a crowd of over a thousand people and asking them to lift their shirts to see if they had a gun tucked in their belt?

I feel stupid to even address that. First off, the assessment was made and it was correct. How they knew, that I don't know, I just know that security told Trump so and were correct. Maybe they saw the weapons, maybe they knew from reading the internet and the preparations for the rally debated there and realized people will bring their arms. What gives? Trump was told they were armed, and they indeed were. What is there to wonder about?

(10-12-2022, 03:41 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: They used them in the Capitol Building?

Just look at the footage and listen to the witnesses instead of asking me questions you should have answered to yourself.
Eg yeah police was sprayed with chemical agents. Bad enough if it happens outside the building, but things like that apparently also happened inside.

(10-12-2022, 03:41 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: 6 people were killed. It seems like there should be a lot more if they were armed and looking to kill people.

That is a weird point to make. Only 6 casualties and barely over 100 injured police officers means folks were not really out for violence? How twisted is that logic.

(10-12-2022, 03:41 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: You're really trying to equate Trump's words with Putin's?

I rather compare you taking Trump at his word to some doofus that takes Putin at his word.
If your assessment were true and Trump really was all against any violence and valued peacefulness above all else, then as soon as the pictures from the Capitol reached him on his TV he would have needed to immediately turn to FOX or Twitter and urge the rioters to stop it right now. That's what wanting peaceful protests would have demanded of him.
But Trump did nothing of that sort. He sat there for hours, watched it all unfold, the breaking of the Capitol, smashing of windows, chemical agents and everything. And he did not say a word. Well, to be precise, he said that Pence betrayed all of them, pouring gasoline in the unfolding fire. That is not the act of a person that wants to avoid violence. And hence, when he said "peaceful", he was lying. As proven by his deeds.

(10-12-2022, 03:41 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Did they make up a majority of the crowd? How many were there?

Why didn't those extremist groups do much damage or cause more violence once in the Capitol?

I don't know. You keeep making this weird point of how there wasn't enough violence to call the riot violent and not enough radical groups to call it radical. Apparently it sounds good to you, to me it sounds asinine. There were confederate flags all over the place, also swastikas and whatnot, not to mention the visible outbursts of violence. If you engage in a protest displaying those symbols and engaging in injuring over 100 police officers, you probaly are radical too.