10-17-2022, 09:15 PM
(10-17-2022, 06:32 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 1. Calling Dalton (at his peak) a backup QB is a dumb take.
2. Your "stat/fact" has been debunked as many times as it's been regurgitated. The folly in this stat is that it judges Andy against only the top 32 QB's when there are often 40+ that qualify.
The better way to judge Andy would be against all qualifiers or to judge his passer rating against the league total for each year.
3. The playoff and prime time stats have to be taken with a giant grain of salt because Dalton played under Marvin Lewis. Palmer had terrible Prime Time stats, too. Until he left, anyways.
(10-17-2022, 06:37 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Great post. In his best years (2011-2015), Dalton was ranked 14th in EPA per play. There are a couple of ways of "factually" looking at this - relative ranking, and Z-Score. Dalton ranked 14th out of 37 QBs that logged over 1000 dropbacks from 2011-2015. Slightly above average. From a Z-Score perspective, he scored a 0.28.
0 is perfectly average
1 is good
2 is fantastic
3 is generational
Dalton was slightly above average in the 2011-2015 campaigns. He fell off after that, but so did the rest of the team. We always knew this, too. Dalton needed a talented roster to produce. Once that talent started dipping, he wasn't able to compensate.
This, Andy Dalton was a good starter in the NFL no question IMHO.
And still is, would love to have him as a backup here, he would be the best we could get.
