Biden - Approval

[Dill]

(10-22-2022, 03:19 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I love when you two try and tag team me like I'm Brad.  It might be time to start up the Mutual Admiration Society again.  

But seriously folks, it's not difficult to comprehend.  You think Gabbard is unintelligent and Harris is smart, or at least smarter than Gabbard.  I find that position to be laughable.  Both positions are opinion based on personal perception of them, their public speaking and their beliefs.  I acknowledge that this is my opinion, you, on the other hand, are busting your butt trying to convince others that your position is factual.  Your self confidence is impressive but totally misplaced.  There's really nothing more to this discussion than that, but I'm sure you'll find a way to type up an essay attempting to explain otherwise.

You are explaining your standard—“Laughable.” That’s the test you use. It’s a pretty weak peg upon which to hang all posturing and positioning to avoid the other option.

That other option is to agree on standards that are independent of personal/political orientation. These can include values. Then agree on statements made by each woman which can be evaluated with respect to actual events and facts we also can agree are not just “perception.” E.g. the mar a lago raid was not a Biden weaponization of the DoJ but the National archives legal action to recover stolen records.

Assertions about “intelligence” then become testable, measurable just as meeting or failing to meet legal standards is measurable. And we leave the simple opinion/fact dichotomy of high school arguments, with its attendant confusion of judgments of fact with judgments of value.

You don’t seem familiar with this option. I see no evidence that you understand when value judgments aren’t simply personal opinion. But you do sense the danger when fact can condition “perception.” (That’s why you called gabbard’s public statement a “subjective dill opinion”.) There is a safety in perceptionland, where you can claim all perceptions equal, but some more than others, without accountability. Smears and sneers replace reasons.

Someone who so frequently speaks for the group should know—I’m not the only one in the forum who knows and prefers the accountability option.