Chris Henry remembered

[*jason*]

(11-13-2022, 10:37 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Had front row seats throughout their entire career and like them all a lot.

Plus the times weren't different really as some suggest, in Carson's the first 3 seasons when he was healthy still and played all 16 games
he threw 509, 520, 575 despite playing one less game even than nowadays. Did not count his year 1 because he did not play a full year. They were definitely a pass heavy offense. Burrow threw 520 times. 

So lets look, Chad and company only got 4 years together starting in 05. Will only factor in there first 3 years because their stats fall off so much in 08 that they only got 10 combined TD's as a group and want to give them a fair chance. Chase and company have only played 1 full year together so will go by that year even though Chase was a rookie and Tee was just in his 2nd year. Chad and TJ were much more seasoned in these 3 years but should be noted Henry was in his first three years but only played 4 total. 

in 05, 06, and 07 Chad and company averaged 

Chad........92 - 1,413 yds ......8 TD's..........Chase.....81 - 1,455 yds....13 TD's 
Housh......93 - 1,060 yds.......9 TD's...........Tee........74 - 1,091 yds......6 TD's
Henry.......29 - 456 yds..........5 TD's...........Boyd......67 - 828 yds.........5 TD's
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Total........214 - 2,929............22 TD's ...................222 - 3,374.............24 TD's 

So Chase had more yds  and 5 more TD's than Chad with 11 less receptions. By the way Chads most TD rec in any year was 10. 
Higgins had more yds than Housh with 19 less receptions yet had 3 less TD's, but again 19 less receptions. 
Henry did average the same # of TD's as Boyd in half the receptions which is impressive, but much less yds. 

Plus if you even tried to compare Chad's or TJ's rookie stats with Chase's or Higgins stats it would be very lopsided and laughable. So went with the time frame you suggested when they all played together. 

So the total amount of catches are similar with the current regime having only 8 more catches despite being targeted 15 less times than the old regime and has more yds and TD's as well.

Again more catches, more yds, and more TD's, in less targets.

Chad's group had 17 years of experience by the time factored and Chase's had 9 years with Boyd accounting for 6 of the 9 years. So their #1 and #2 WR only had 3 years experience between them compared to 14 by Chad and TJ.

Would also add that one squad is 3-1 in the playoffs and one never won a single game in the playoffs and two of the new regime are just starting their careers.  TJ did not even start playing well until his 4th season and Henry never really did equal his talent and maybe things change if he did. 

Think I will stick with my opinion that Chase, Higgins, and Boyd are better but that's not a slight on Chad and TJ who were great but rather to say just how elite this group is actually. Both regimes also had a #1 overall draft pick as QB but the 05-07 group had a much better O-line. 

This stuff is kinda fun, but it's also silly. It's not like these guys are ever gonna face off, and they did play in different eras. They aren't that far apart, but I'll tell you that Chad, TJ, and Slim took hits to the dome that weren't flagged because they weren't illegal. I know Tee has gotten rocked in the head twice this season, I believe one of them was flagged.

Anyway... My take... Henry doesn't really belong in the discussion. He was fun to watch, and made some great plays. He was a matchup nightmare, but wasn't on the level of the 5 other guys in this conversation.

Chad is probably the best WR in Bengals history, but that crown is gonna be short lived. Injuries derailed AJ Green's claim at it, but Ja'Marr is coming. I'm not a stat guy, but pretty sure Ja'Marr just had the best WR season in franchise history before he could buy a beer.

TJ was a throwaway pick that might carve a notch playing special teams. He had a great 4 year run in Cincinnati, and had an above average career for an NFL player.

Tee Higgins should've never slipped to the 2nd round... Seriously; Henry Ruggs was drafted before him. The guy is gonna have a better career than TJ or Henry, and could approach Chad's numbers should be find himself in the right situation. I'd take Chad if we were in a pick-up game, and this is where the different eras come in.

Boyd should be better than TJ... He was a better prospect.