01-03-2023, 03:17 PM
(01-03-2023, 09:16 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I really do not expect him to have brain damage. He got medical treatment almost immediately... far faster than someone having a heart attack at home and waiting on an ambulance. They slapped an AED on him almost immediately and started CPR. I'm praying for good news today. As far as no news, it's the middle of the night, it's up to the family what gets released, and I'm sure family members are still making their way to Cincy. Lack of a news conference on his condition is not surprising.
Where did you get that info. To my trained eye (witnessed at least a few dozen syncopal events over my career) it looked like they screwed around stabilizing his neck first and looking dumbfounded about what was going on and didn't start CPR for the over 2 minutes or more that I was watching. When i saw him collapse and let out a breathless "OMG" as anyone who has seen enough sudden cardiac/circulatory events recognizes them from across the room when it happens . For a couple more minutes it seemed like the training staff just kept looking him over, not doing cpr through his equipment or even trying to get his chest exposed. Never once saw them check for a pulse, but we also didn't have a completely unobstructed view...so I can't say with certainty it wasn't done.
So I think he went without adequate perfusion and oxygenation way longer than he should have. The fact that he is still on a ventilator this am is not a good sign, (but not necessarily a dire one, either). Most, but not all, people with witnessed syncope/arrhythmias that are converted immediately, ie within minutes, will wake up and breath and are responsive within 10 min or less,...even my very out of shape,( but still VERY shapely I might add) wife never did get intubated after her arrhythmia, though she now has a really cool pacer/defibrillator. I would expect a trained athlete at peak condition with the highest circulatory and metabolic efficiency to be a little more resistant to anoxic injury.
In defense of training staff, from personal experience, football equipment is damn hard to get off rapidly in an unresponsive player and the shoulder pad unit has hard plastic that shields the sternum and chest for just this reason and if cpr is being done through it, it is likely to be much less effective.
Lack of good news beyond "stable vitals" , some 12 hrs later and still on a ventilator is a very disconcerting to me. Says there is a significant concern for anoxic brain injury esp if he's been put in a chemical coma and induced hypothermia-- I don't know if it's being employed or not...anybody know for sure?
