One could say Zac is one of the greatest Bengals coaches ever.....

[*Awful Llama*]

(01-16-2023, 06:16 PM)TheCincinnatiKid Wrote: Back to the topic, I mean at some point the stats talk for themselves right? 

- First back to back division titles.
- First road playoff win. Which was followed up within a week by another.
- First road AFC Championship.
- First 3 win postseason.
- First back to back seasons with a playoff win. 

Obviously you can attribute different levels of credit to different parts, but ZT is the head coach and deemed responsible for it all. He obviously doesn't achieve this with Brandon Allen, but at the end of the day it also takes more than Joe Burrow to do all this, and ZT has helped build most of the roster. 

If he wins a SB it's a non-argument.

You make a compelling argument.  I'd go even further and say that at this point, given the stats you listed and even being short of a SB title to this point, he's already the best.  So if I remove any nostalgia I may have from the equation:


1) Zac (for the reasons you mentioned)
2) Sam (One AFC title, two AFC Central titles, three playoff wins)
3) Forrest (One AFC title, one AFC Central title, two playoff wins)
4) Marvin (Four AFC North titles, seven total playoff appearances)
5) Paul (Two AFC Central titles, three total playoff appearances)


As you mentioned, if he wins a SB, then that should erase any remaining doubt.