Were the pre-Joe Bengals as bad as most think?

[HarleyDog]

(01-31-2023, 10:44 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Maybe it's also partly Mike Brown and his lack of charisma?

The organization has a history of being cheap. Specially in the early days of Mike Brown. Players who played here were open about how cheap the team was and when you don't spend money, it's easily perceived as a team that doesn't want to win. I seem to remember Houshmandzadeh saying they had used jockstraps, no bottled water or Gatorade in the locker room. They had a water fountain. I doubt the peoples view of the FO was reminiscent of the Charlestown Chiefs in the movie Slap Shot, but sure it has something to do with how we are perceived today. Add to that, Mike Brown voting no on basically everything the NFL wants to do/change.