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America First=Seccession
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(02-21-2023, 12:27 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Why are you bringing FOX into this? I speak from experience as someone who takes care of our company benefits. ACA is unaffordable and so is most insurance to most Americans who are either not rich or poor. I continuously hire employees who deny coverage because they can't afford it and we start out at $30hr. ACA is a joke and has always been a joke. I don't discuss it much because GOP had an opportunity to improve it and even promised they would and failed. But that doesn't make ACA good. Damn, it amazes me how some of you act like the mother of a spoiled democrat party that can't do any wrong. If you continue to follow blindly, sooner or later you'll get your head stuck in the fence, and that could end up horrible.  Wink

Yo H-Dog!

1. I'm sure that you know all kinds of things about the ACA and its effects that I do not, if you are working with "benefits" etc. My son, moving between handyman jobs for several years, was able to have insurance thanks to the ACA. That's my closest experience to it on the receiving end. If you can explain, using specifics, how it causes you and your company problems, I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say, not in "refuting" it, though I might have questions. Another question--is it possible the rise in insurance rates has more to do with nature of American insurance, capitalism and free market ideology than Obama/Dems? The insurance was ALWAYS going to go up in cost, right? With the ACA more are able to afford it and insurance companies can't punish you for illness by refusing coverage.

2. I bring Fox in because their job is to disrupt sober, careful analysis of policy, turning everything back to Dems as primary cause, dumping disinformation on voters, etc.  Remember Nixon instituted HMOs to help cut health care casts back in '73(?). And they were serving people well as non-profits--until the Reagan era when they were converted to for-profit, sold, and used to "harvest" profits for investors. Obama would have preferred something like a non profit insurance solution, but that could only be possible if the Republican base were on board. So Obama had to take what he could. If that still brings in the flaws of "free-market" insurance, It is not really clear analysis to see him as "cause." 
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America First=Seccession - pally - 02-20-2023, 03:52 PM
RE: America First=Succession - pally - 02-20-2023, 04:55 PM
RE: America First=Succession - Dill - 02-21-2023, 03:56 AM
RE: America First=Succession - Nately120 - 02-20-2023, 05:19 PM
RE: America First=Succession - Belsnickel - 02-20-2023, 06:25 PM
RE: America First=Succession - HarleyDog - 02-20-2023, 11:04 PM
RE: America First=Succession - pally - 02-20-2023, 11:17 PM
RE: America First=Succession - Dill - 02-21-2023, 03:14 AM
RE: America First=Succession - HarleyDog - 02-21-2023, 12:27 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - Dill - 02-22-2023, 04:21 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - HarleyDog - 02-22-2023, 07:07 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - Nately120 - 02-22-2023, 07:21 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - basballguy - 02-22-2023, 07:29 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - Nately120 - 02-22-2023, 07:33 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - pally - 02-23-2023, 01:55 AM
RE: America First=Seccession - samhain - 02-23-2023, 07:22 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - Goalpost - 02-23-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - samhain - 02-23-2023, 10:06 PM
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RE: America First=Seccession - basballguy - 02-24-2023, 07:04 PM
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RE: America First=Seccession - pally - 02-25-2023, 03:16 PM
RE: America First=Succession - HarleyDog - 02-21-2023, 12:13 PM
RE: America First=Succession - Dill - 02-21-2023, 03:00 AM
RE: America First=Succession - Dill - 02-21-2023, 02:44 AM
RE: America First=Succession - Nately120 - 02-20-2023, 11:28 PM
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RE: America First=Succession - Dill - 02-21-2023, 10:56 AM
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RE: America First=Succession - Nately120 - 02-21-2023, 11:29 AM
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RE: America First=Seccession - GMDino - 02-21-2023, 01:39 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - Nately120 - 02-21-2023, 01:50 PM
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RE: America First=Seccession - Millhouse - 02-21-2023, 02:34 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - Nately120 - 02-21-2023, 02:41 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - pally - 02-21-2023, 03:09 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - basballguy - 02-21-2023, 11:22 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - pally - 02-21-2023, 11:34 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - GMDino - 02-22-2023, 12:21 AM
RE: America First=Seccess - pally - 02-22-2023, 02:39 AM
RE: America First=Seccession - basballguy - 02-22-2023, 03:14 AM
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RE: America First=Seccession - Nately120 - 02-22-2023, 01:21 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - basballguy - 02-22-2023, 05:06 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - Dill - 02-22-2023, 05:21 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - basballguy - 02-22-2023, 05:49 PM
RE: America First=Seccession - pally - 02-22-2023, 06:04 PM
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RE: America First=Seccession - Goalpost - 03-13-2023, 02:04 PM
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