Fox news convicted liars

[Dill]

(04-07-2023, 09:35 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: Good lord. Do you really believe this nonsense or are you still blindly supporting everything left?

H-dog, you're a good guy and I don't want to get on your bad side.  But we are dealing with questions that can be sorted out methodically with
reference to a factual record we should both be able to agree on. 

Since the Iraq War, and Fox's role in defending it long after MSM realized the boondoggle, I've made an effort to study the political
economy of news and the history of U.S. press. That means reading actual books and scholarly articles, not just current news "opinion."
This also requires de-politicizing terms like "bias" and "the left," using them responsibly and accurately as political scientists do, not Fox hosts.  

So I am much less interested in what anyone "believes," than in what can be actually demonstrated, not simply asserted. 

Every MSM outlet has fired journalists and editors for lying. We get nowhere if I cite a Fox reporter's lie and you cite a WaPo reporter's lie, tit for tat. The issue is really the "culture" of news organizations--the kinds of standards they hold to, or do not, for what cause people are hired or fired, how sources are vetted, the closeness of editors/reporters to news sources/stories/personalities--especially politicians. That should determine which are more trustworthy, which less--not WHETHER CNN was sued once too, but what values and standards are revealed in its response.  

So can you name an MSM organization in which the owner's ADMITTED POLICY is to allow people to lie on air and in print without challenge, because that serves a political leader's agenda, which fires journalists for telling the truth because the audience might not like that truth and turn to networks further right, and whose reporters call for the firing of a colleague for telling the truth, because that might drop the companies stock? Or one whose reporters daily strategize with politicians about how to present and coordinate stories? 

Can you name an MSM organization which refuses to cover a Congressional hearing on an event so important as the Capitol insurrection because it is "biased," while successfully persuading many of its viewers that the other side ignores news that "doesn't fit the narrative" because it has an "agenda"? 

Is there an MSM reporter/commentator who can call Biden during a crisis to coach him through it? From which MSM news channel does Biden pick staff, while its hosts put on guests to pitch ideas directly to the always watching president? 

These are questions of fact, which can for the most part be given "yes" and "no" answers because the record is available to "both sides."