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The Force Awakens spoiler thread
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(12-21-2015, 04:48 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Someone else is already directing Episode VIII (Rian (sp?) Johnson is the name, I think). But, no reason he can't come back as a producer or something.

Random thoughts:
  • Saw the movie yesterday and I liked it, though, TBH, I felt a little bothered with how close it came to being a 2015 version of A New Hope (hero comes from a desert planet, Death Star like weapon with a weak spot, old man/mentor gets killed by the bad guy with a red lightsaber, etc.). 

    That was kind of the purpose though, to reset the universe with these new characters and make them the focus not Han, Leia and Luke who would just be the co-stars. 
  • I must say that I saw Han's death coming. I remember reading how Harrison Ford wanted Solo to die at the end of 5 or 6, but the clincher was the interaction with Leia before they headed off to the Starkiller base.
  • I'm pretty confident there's not going to be any Vader-like redemption for Kylo Ren. I think his conflict occurred in this movie and his killing of Han solidified his turn to the dark side and the eradication of the light side within him; plus, there's just no coming back from killing your own father (at least, there better not be).

    Agreed 100%. He needs to stay bad now. 
  • Speaking of Mr. Ben Solo, I'm not fond of his character. I liked Vader as a villain. He had PRESENCE. He didn't need to do anything to instill fear in those around him. Ren, as someone else put it earlier, is like a whiny teenage douchebag. I'm hopeful that now that he's embraced the dark side fully, he'll become a better villain, but so far, I'm not impressed.

    You got Vader as a master. Lord Vader. Kylo Ren is still learning. He's closer to Empire Strikes Back Luke than Vader. Angry, unsure of himself as a person...horribly conflicted. I liked that he wasn't a Vader clone like that. He gets to develop as a bad guy. You can't critique it for being a New Hope clone then get mad when they don't just serve up a Vader clone and actually give Ren some depth and growth. I hate Ren now more than I ever hated Vader. 
  • Am I the only one nerd enough to notice that Ren's lightsaber was unstable (the light I mean)? It was staticy or not "pure". I'm hopeful this was intentional and to show that Ren's not a master of the force (yet?).
  • I LOVED how they answered some of my questions with a line here or there and not with extemporaneously long backstories. For example, why Finn doesn't look like Jango Fett.

    This was brilliant writing. Giving depth and story without lingering and lumbering on things.
  • Count me in as one of those who thinks Rey is Luke's daughter. 
  • Is Supreme Leader Snoke a Sith Lord?

    I don't know if we are supposed to know the answer to this yet....
  • BB-8 giving Ren the "thumbs up" had to have been the funniest moment in the movie. I'm still chuckling at the thought of it.

    Best non-sentient being since R2D2
  • I dislike how the movie made Captain Phasma seem inept. She's supposed to be this badass chick in badass armor. Sort of like this trilogy's Fett. Yet, she was caught by a stormtropper and an old man, did what they wanted and was thrown in a garbage compactor. I know the character plays a bigger role in the Rogue movie, but c'mon, at least make her get away from them in a cool manner or have them work extra hard at capturing her or something.

    I think she was just introduced to get you ready for the other movies. I expect bigger roles soon. Besides, Fett only had 8 minutes of screen time in 2 movies and was killed by blind Han Solo on accident....Phasma is already half way there.
  • Rey is very pretty (even more so if you've seen her with her hair down), but man does she have small boobs. What is she, a pre-teen or something? Smirk
That's all I got for now, but man, it's going to be a long wait 'til Episode 8 gets here.
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RE: The Force Awakens spoiler thread - J24 - 12-19-2015, 03:29 AM
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