The Trans Movement Just Hit Home.......

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(05-04-2023, 11:57 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: As generations turn, it obviously is different people, but within a generation you'll see the same people drop item A and go after item B. In 2015 (honestly, I cannot believe it was that recently, Jesus), Republicans were virulently against gay marriage. Now? The same general group of politicians have just...dropped that talking point and moved onto trans people. Maybe they, in the back of their heads, still oppose it. But it's not really a viable talking point nowadays, so they probably just don't bring it up at all.

There obviously was some turnover, but many of the stalwarts remained. Hell, of the 4 judges that voted against Obergefell v. Hodges, Roberts, Thomas and Alito are still on the Supreme Court. Scalia died shortly after, but it's not like this was decades ago. It wasn't even a single decade ago.

Conservatism is about stability. The stability of the rights and freedoms as they exist at any given time. They want as few changes to the status quo as possible. It was conservatives who were against the abolition of slavery. It was conservatives who were against women's right to vote. It was conservatives who were against the right for black people to vote etc. They aren't the SAME conservatives. They weren't all "republicans" and, perhaps, we didn't even call them conservatives (nor did we call the other side progressives or liberals). Words change over time, but for each of these items, there were those who fought for more freedoms and rights for a given oppressed group, and there were those who fought against more freedoms and rights for a given oppressed group. 

If you were to bring an abolitionist back from the dead and a civil war general back from the dead, who do you think would most likely identify with the progressives of today and who do you think would most likely identify with the conservatives of today (granted, the civil war general would think both parties were WAY too lenient towards the "inferior race" but would certainly enjoy hearing about the southern strategy that Republicans employed for so long).

But the same person could very well have been in favor on one and opposed to another. So are they they the progressives or the conservatives? An abolitionist during the Civil War would almost certainly identify with the religious right. The whole abolitionist movement was based on religion and the Second Great Awakening