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(05-16-2023, 09:08 PM)Lucidus Wrote: That would be nice, but whataboutism seems preferable in most dialogues these days.

I will note though, there can be demonstrable differences that tend to be more prevalent / one-sided in these events, and in those cases, pointing it out is needed and also very informative.

It could be considered "whataboutism" if I was using the point to excuse or mitigate Jan. 6th.  I am not doing so in any fashion.  You are correct in that they are not exactly direct parallels, but that's a sword that cuts both ways.

(05-17-2023, 08:40 AM)pally Wrote: The violence was condemned, in both circumstances.  But I think most people understand there is a difference in the 2 situations.  One started as a protest for racial justice after watching a cop murder a man over a $20 counterfeit bill. The other was a protest built on lies by the President of the United States whose goals were to overturn the Federal Government in favor of Trump by any means necessary.

Incorrect, one was multiple protests over several months that became increasingly more violent as they went along.  The other was a one off event.  As I said above, there are certainly differences, but that's a sword that cuts both ways.  Also, the reason your protesting becomes utterly irrelevant to me once you start assaulting law enforcement, burning buildings, looting and, in some cases, murdering people.


Quote:Now you may claim this is being hypocritical others will say it is using critical thinking skills to understand that while there were similarities in the situations there are also vast differences.
One wouldn’t have happened if Minneapolis didn’t have an out of control cop.  The other wouldn5 have happened if we didn’t have an out of control President.

You're proving my point for me.  The riots were excused by many and you're providing a perfect illustration of that in this post.  You start by saying the violence was condemned.  It largely was not and instead was largely excused and mitigated, just as you're doing in this exact post.
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What is Masculinty - pally - 05-15-2023, 03:01 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Arturo Bandini - 05-15-2023, 03:23 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - kalibengal - 05-15-2023, 06:59 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - GMDino - 05-15-2023, 03:28 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - CJD - 05-15-2023, 03:35 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Nately120 - 05-15-2023, 03:54 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - CKwi88 - 05-15-2023, 04:21 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Nately120 - 05-15-2023, 04:33 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - CKwi88 - 05-15-2023, 05:46 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Millhouse - 05-15-2023, 04:25 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Goalpost - 05-15-2023, 04:31 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Nately120 - 05-15-2023, 05:53 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Nately120 - 05-15-2023, 09:06 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - CJD - 05-15-2023, 06:38 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - CJD - 05-15-2023, 07:46 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - CJD - 05-15-2023, 09:38 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - CJD - 05-15-2023, 11:41 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - CJD - 05-16-2023, 01:04 AM
RE: What is Masculinty - michaelsean - 05-16-2023, 10:10 AM
RE: What is Masculinty - Eraserhead - 05-15-2023, 08:30 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - SunsetBengal - 05-15-2023, 08:39 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Nately120 - 05-15-2023, 08:47 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - michaelsean - 05-15-2023, 11:15 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - NATI BENGALS - 05-16-2023, 02:49 AM
RE: What is Masculinty - Truck_1_0_1_ - 05-16-2023, 10:35 AM
RE: What is Masculinty - Truck_1_0_1_ - 05-16-2023, 10:37 AM
RE: What is Masculinty - pally - 05-16-2023, 12:58 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - BigPapaKain - 05-16-2023, 02:05 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Nately120 - 05-16-2023, 07:26 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Nately120 - 05-16-2023, 07:50 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - GMDino - 05-16-2023, 07:58 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Nately120 - 05-16-2023, 08:10 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Lucidus - 05-16-2023, 09:08 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - pally - 05-17-2023, 08:40 AM
RE: What is Masculinty - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 05-17-2023, 12:23 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - GMDino - 05-16-2023, 07:57 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - BigPapaKain - 05-16-2023, 08:07 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Lucidus - 05-16-2023, 09:01 PM
What is Masculinty - pally - 05-17-2023, 12:48 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - pally - 05-17-2023, 02:01 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - pally - 05-18-2023, 11:01 AM
RE: What is Masculinty - pally - 05-18-2023, 01:35 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - GMDino - 05-24-2023, 11:24 AM
RE: What is Masculinty - Belsnickel - 05-24-2023, 01:22 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - BengalYankee - 05-24-2023, 01:50 PM
RE: What is Masculinty - Belsnickel - 05-24-2023, 09:32 PM

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