05-17-2023, 02:31 PM
(05-17-2023, 02:01 PM)pally Wrote: Where did I ever excuse violence?
In the posts I responded to.
Quote:Understanding the reasons that went into it does not condone why it happened.
It certainly excuses it though. You provided excuses for the violence, by definition that is excusing the behavior.
Quote: Looking into the situations that lead to violence is not condoning violence. Looking to find solutions so the problems don't repeat isn't condoning violence. Nor does donating to a fund to bail out those arrested for PROTESTING not rioting as many were in Minneapolis, also does not condone violence.
There was no such distinction made. One of the people bailed out by this organization was a violent felon who then murdered someone.
A suspect released with the help of a nonprofit organization operating a Minnesota bail fund endorsed by Vice President Kamala Harris has now been charged with murder.
Shawn Michael Tillman, a repeat felon, shot and killed a passenger on a light rail platform in St. Paul, Minnesota in May after reportedly being released from jail on April 29 for indecent exposure thanks to the Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF).
Vice President Kamala Harris pointed potential donors to the Minnesota Freedom Fund during the violence that ensued after the murder of George Floyd.
Quote: Most of those cases were actually dismissed because they didn't have enough evidence to prosecute them for anything else.
Source? Also, was that the real reason, or was it a left leaning DA like we see in many places who lets left wing violence, or any violence for that matter, go with a slap on the wrist?
Quote:Kyle Rittenhouse was a kid looking for trouble. You blow this off but he isn't a hero. He used a weapon he wasn't legally allowed to carry into a volatile situation in a community where he didn't live.
More proving my point for me. Also, the illegally carrying a weapons charge was dismissed, so you are incorrect in that regard.
Quote:You call it self-defense and that is what the jury decided. Maybe that is the legal conclusion. But, 2 people are dead and 1 permanently disabled because he put himself into a situation where he had no business being with a weapon he had no business using and lacked the proper training to understand when to use it.
More excusing violence on your part. Two people are dead and one "disabled" because they chose to attack a person without provocation. Also, very interesting how all three people shot were convicted felons. Not that Rittenhouse knew that, only that they were attacking him.
Quote:He shouldn't be celebrated nor is a victim both of which he has become to the right wing. He's an example of how bad things can get when you put yourself into a bad situation and that includes the people who died that night. They also made bad decisions. He is a stupid kid who made a who
He shouldn't have been anything because the DA should have never charged him and we wouldn't have become a symbol of selective and political prosecution. The far left is as responsible for his lionization as anyone.
Quote:Every right-wing person I know makes excuses for Jan 6.
Then you've found some common ground. Do you accept their excuses or do you challenge them?
Quote:We on the left understand why it happened just like we understand why the riots of 2020 happened and we do understand that the daylight peaceful protests turned into riots at night On Jan 6, A large group of people believed the lies being told to them by a man who was desperate to maintain power. Violence and lawbreaking from many ensued out of an otherwise peaceful "rally" But, unlike the left who at least acknowledges the violence, most right-wingers, including politicians, refuse to even admit Jan 6 got violent and out of control....except of course other than that thug cop who murdered poor Ashli Babbit for doing nothing at all
Does the left acknowledge the violence? "Mostly peaceful" would indicate otherwise. Even when it is acknowledged it is excuse and mitigated. It's frustrating that you don't see this exact behavior in yourself. You even made false claims in this very post that the bail money raised at the behest of Kamala Harris was only used to bail people out for "protesting, not rioting" when the organization themselves stated clearly that they made no such distinction, read the link above.
Lastly, in regard to Babbit, I would honestly like you to answer one question for me. Was she unarmed when she was shot?
