The NYPD Took This Dog Into Custody Because His Owner Filmed the Police

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(05-20-2023, 03:33 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I'm pretty sure that I read that violent crime went down under 'stop and frisk', and rose sharply once it was not in effect.  Are you able to confirm?

No.

At least not all crime.  It was actually having more officers in the high crime areas...not them randomly stopping people.

https://crim.sas.upenn.edu/fact-check/does-stop-and-frisk-reduce-crime

Quote:John MacDonald

Some politicians claim that the New York Police Department’s (NYPD) extensive use of stop, question, and frisk practices in the past are the primary cause of New York’s low crime rate. Is this claim supported by research?

NYPD’s deployment of extra police to high crime neighborhoods contributed far more to the crime reduction than the use of stop, question, and frisk. Research on the NYPD’s program of Operation Impact found that extra police deployed to high crime areas in New York was a major factor in the crime decline: a 12% to 15% reduction. The additional use of stop, question, and frisk made almost no difference. The stops only had a detectable impact on crime when the stops were based on probable cause, and these kinds of stops were very rare. Other research by Weisburd and colleagues also showed that stop, question, and frisk practices had only small associations with crime reduction (on the order 2%). And this study did not measure the effects of stops over and above increased officer deployment.


What can we conclude from this? Saturating high crime neighborhoods with extra police helped reduce crime in New York, but the bulk of investigative stops did not play a meaningful role in the crime reduction.
References
MacDonald J, Fagan J, Geller A (2016) The Effects of Local Police Surges on Crime and Arrests in New York City. PLoS ONE 11(6): e0157223. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0157223


Weisburd D, Wooditch A, Weisburd S, Yang SM. Do Stop, Question, and Frisk Practices Deter Crime?Criminology & Public Policy. 2015 Nov 1.

It did affect people's trust in the police though.

https://www.vera.org/newsroom/study-reveals-stop-and-frisk-significantly-impacts-trust-in-new-york-city-police

Quote:New York, NY–The Vera Institute of Justice (Vera) today released a study that examined how being stopped by the police, and the frequency of those stops, affects young people and public safety in highly patrolled areas in New York City.  The Coming of Age with Stop and Frisk: Experiences, Self-Perceptions, and Public Safety Implications study found that 88 percent of young people surveyed believe that residents of their neighborhood do not trust the police, and only one in four surveyed would report someone whom they believe had committed a crime. Findings also revealed that young people who have been stopped more often in the past are less willing to report crimes, even when they themselves are the victims.


The study surveyed nearly 500 young adults between the ages of 18 and 25 and included in-depth interviews with a smaller, sample of 13 to 21-year-olds. Researchers focused exclusively on young people in highly patrolled, high-crime areas who have been stopped by police at least once in their lives. The study explored how often young people are stopped, the nature of stop and frisk and its consequences.

Quote:“Our research demonstrates that stop and frisk is compromising trust in law enforcement and discouraging young people from speaking up and reporting crimes, even when they are the ones that need help,” said Jennifer Fratello, research director at Vera’s Center on Youth Justice and the study’s principal investigator. “We can only improve public safety through cooperation between police and the community, which means we need to repair the damage caused by excessive use of stop and frisk.”

I don't know if any of those statistics include people arrested for filming the police legally and then having the charges dropped.