Ring of Honor voting starts today

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(05-26-2023, 03:25 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: really ??   a few years ago for our 50 year celebration he was voted top 5 player of all time for bengals.  When he retired he was 10th leading score in NFL history, he was total clutch.. going 9 for 9 in OT games , you can't compare eras, kicking today and the approach is much different than back when Breech played, he was a solid kicker during his era and totally deserves someday to be in our HOF. 

Who's comparing eras? Breech was average to poor AMONGST HIS PEERS:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/breecjim01.htm

- 5 seasons out of 14 being top 10 in FG%
- 104th all-time in FG% (71.47%), despite being 47th in attempts (340).

His peers include the Anderso/ens, Eddie Murray, Nick Lowery, Norm Johnson.

- 79.7% for Morten, 270 more attempts
- 80.1% for Gary, 230 more attempts
- Murray 75.5%, 120 more attempts (and got worse as he got older, which means he was better during his and Breech's heyday)
- Lowery 80%, 140 more attempts
- Johnson 76.7%, 140 more attempts

- Morten (47.6% 50, 67.7 40), Gary (30% 50, 71.1%), Murray (48.8% 50, 65% 40), Lowery (44.8% 50, 70.9% 40), Johnson (42.5% 50, 67.1% 40) were ALL better than Breech's 23% from 50 and 50% from 40

- Morten is 31st (859 XP attempts at 98.8%), Gary is 18th (827 XP attempts at 99.1%), Murray is 37th (545 XP attempts at 98.7%), Lowery is 27th (568 XP attempts and 98.9%), Johnson is 24th (644 XP Attempts at 99%) are all SIGNIFICANTLY better than Breech, who is 129th, with 95.9% made XPs in 539 attempts.

Breech had 1 thing going for him (which you repeated) in that he was clutch. That's it. Otherwise, he was a league-average to below league-average kicker that came into the league probably 10 years too late and that's probably why his career ended in 1992, while all of his peers played basically to the millennium.

You don't get accolades because you were mediocre at your job for 14 years. Breech wasn't good, period.

And stop arguing it: don't be a Fred.