06-03-2023, 06:44 PM
(06-03-2023, 05:47 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Actually, it is medicine and science. There are no other ways to test these things. Now, we can do everything possible to mitigate risks such as making sure there are strict requirements for starting puberty blockers, let alone HRT or surgery.
Of course there are. Such experiments can be conducted on subjects that are not human, this is done all the time. As for strict requirements, there seem to be lots of stories about requirements being, shall we say, not quite so strict.
https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-regret-changing-genders/
You can dismiss the NY Post as being an obviously partisan source, which would be fair. But the story contains direct quotes that contradict your position.
Quote:I started a medication at the age of three for allergies. I was on that medication for roughly 10 years. One of the side effects that was unknown at the time was weight gain. When you look at pictures of me before I started that medication and in the first year, normal weight. I steadily gained weight throughout my childhood despite being a very active kid. Played baseball, did wrestling, was always outside, etc. I couldn't play football until high school because of weight limits, unfortunately. Anyway, that drug was taken off the market in 1999 for several reasons, but not before that damage was done. Something my parents were never told about.
I was diagnosed ADHD (ADD then) in 1980 and was prescribed Ritalin so in that regard we are similar. Although Ritalin appears to have been more thoroughly tested then what you took. All the same, you seem to making my case for me here. The medical profession failed both you and your parents (as it does many annually with well over a hundred thousands deaths a year from medical malpractice). If your parents had been correctly informed do you think they would have allowed your prescription?
Quote:This isn't the only story like that. We, society that is, put drugs out all the time without knowing everything they will do. It's a regular part of how we do business around the world. We work to mitigate risks and we compensate for issues when we can, but that is absolutely how we further scientific knowledge in the field of medicine.
Past practice is a poor justification for continued practice.
(06-03-2023, 06:18 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: To be fair, I can understand people having ethical questions about this stuff. It isn't very black and white.
Don't dissuade him. Take away snark and he doesn't appear to have much left to contribute.
