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(06-06-2023, 12:03 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I get what you're saying but it's an oversimplification, IMO.  You may vote for DeSantis because you prefer him to the other viable candidates.  It's not like you're voting for him over an Eisenhower.  Let's be real about this, our candidates for POTUS have been a dumpster fire of late.

Maybe it is an oversimplification. From my viewpoint, someone who is right wing and someone who simply espouses, supports and endorses right wing figureheads without necessarily believing the same things or agreeing with them because "there's currently no one better" are fairly interchangeable. "We are what we pretend to be" after all.

If he were left wing or left leaning or even "centrist" (whatever that means), for example, he would be trying to find a sane alternative to Biden left of center. But instead he just shifted right (and fairly far right, to be honest. DeSantis is not a moderate or right leaning conservative. He's full right wing).

Quote:My understanding is he has an estranged child who has recently come out as trans, so this may be more personal for him than political.  Again, I haven't seen the film in question so I can't comment further in that regard.

It may be a personal thing for him. That's a shame for him that he's suffering a family dispute that is clouding his judgment.

I made the mistake of watching the video just to stay informed and know what the opposition is saying and, honestly, it's not even worth the 45 minutes to watch it 2x speed (Which Twitter, thankfully, allows). Below is a summary which you're free to skip. I just wasted the time to watch it, so the summary below is, if nothing else, my justification for the time I spent on it haha.

It's a combination of a few kinds of interviews. The first kind is him talking to gender experts or left wing people he disagrees with that have some connection to the topic (doctors, sociologists, professors etc). He asks them what a woman is, they explain the difference between sex and gender and then he repeats the question of what is a woman. Then the expert starts to look uncomfortable and asks why they are asking this, then he repeats the question, and then they end the interview. Other variants of this are he asks an expert why trans women are dominating women's sports, they explain that they aren't really and that the cases where trans women are winning are just magnified in the media because of the inherent bias towards assuming trans women are physically superior to cis women. He intercuts their answer with clips of trans women winning certain competitions as if that is a rebuke of his statement and, in the "what is a woman" case he actually just skips over the person's answer entirely, instead editing it to make it seem like he's prattling on nonsensically. This is maybe 1/3 of the documentary. 

Another 1/3 is him just walking up to people on the street and asking them. Most people say like "whatever, I don't really have a strict definition, but if you identify as a woman, I respect that." Some people say "a female" or "has a vagina" but not nearly as many as you'd expect. He moves locations, sometimes going to women's rallies, other times just the streets of Hollywood.

He even goes to Nairobi, Kenya and speaks to a local Maasai tribe with extremely traditional gender roles (the translator even said "A man cannot do the duty of a woman and the woman cannot do the duty of a man."). He asks them the same questions and their answers are fairly predictable.

The final 1/3 is him talking to people who agree with him. A teenage cis woman who lost several races to a particularly capable trans woman, who then stretched that experience across all of women's sports. A shop owner who put up a sign that says "if you have a dick, you aren't a chick" and him talking about the times people have confronted him for having that sign in front of his Star Wars shop. Appeals to "common sense" abound etc. 

Near the end of the documentary, he dives head first into the "protect our kids" debate and that's centered entirely around "children are not able to understand what they're getting into." He has a doctor who is against puberty blockers, he has a person who was a cis woman, transitioned to a man and regretted it and then a family therapist who says she noticed that, in cases where one parent affirms their child's identity and one doesn't, the one who does always wins any disputes surrounding hormone therapy or puberty blockers.

I will say though that, if you were already skeptical or hostile towards the idea of transgenderism,  those last three people do say a lot of things that would scare you. It's the one portion of the documentary that I think is genuinely effective propaganda (the other 2/3rds+ is just Matt feigning stupidity and poorly debating people).

I can't speak to whether these people are acting in good faith, but one of them mentions the whole "kids are acting like animals in school now and the teachers have to respect that identity" thing which I'm 99.99% sure was debunked as right wing grifting, so that calls pretty much everything that person said into question. They even interviewed a furry/therian/"animal person" (not related to the student claim at all, really) and she seemed pretty normal, to be honest haha. She basically just said she likes wolves and enjoys being around them and communicating with them (non-verbally of course).

Almost every person interviewed in this section prefaces the interview with "if I say any of what I'm about to say, my career will be ruined, but I'm going to say it anyway." No word yet on how many careers Matt Walsh ruined by publishing this documentary.

 This section is also intercut with tiktoks of people saying things like "my pronouns are demon/demonself" which is obviously meant to frustrate those pre-disposed to the outrage culture.

He ends by asking his wife what a woman is and she says "an adult, human female who needs help opening this [jar of pickles.]" Upbeat music swells in the background and she hands him a jar of pickles, there's a hard cut to him opening a jar of pickles (why the cut there? Maybe because he initially struggled to open the jar? Who's to say?) and then he nods his head reassuringly, chuckles and walks off to a better, more sane world.

I wish I were joking haha.

I can now feel like my 45 minutes were put to good use...Sorry for subjecting you to it.