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We are all equal again, right?
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(06-30-2023, 03:31 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: My position is you can't solve inequality with more inequality.  Lower income students includes more white people than any other ethnicity.

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2020/09/poverty-rates-for-blacks-and-hispanics-reached-historic-lows-in-2019.html

The percentage is lower but the overall numbers are greater.  A dirt poor white kid will still take a back seat to a wealthy black or Hispanic kid.  Now, if you want to start a certain percentage of admittants need to be under a certain income level, I'd be for that, as long as you eliminated any possible means of discerning the person's ethnicity.

The problem though, is this isn't an income only issue.  Why do dirt poor whites score on par with the wealthiest black students?

https://johnmjennings.com/race-income-and-college-admission-testing/

[Image: race-and-sat-chart-9017418.png?resize=65...C368&ssl=1]

You'll note that white students whose families make less than $20k a year score 478 math and 480 verbal.  Contrast that with a black student whose family makes more than $100k, 490 math and 495 verbal.  That's shocking, is it not?  So the real question is why this disparity?  A black student from a wealthy family has far more opportunity than a dirt poor white kid.  So why are their test scores nearly identical?  Before some bad faith actor (not you, you're not like that) tries to claim I'm making some eugenics based argument, I most certainly am not.  I am asking why this discrepancy exists, because the answer will likely contain a sold solution.



But again, you can't address inequality by creating more inequality.  A ratio that reflects the local populace would run into the same issues if the root causes are not addressed.  As we can determine from the above, income does not seem to be a prime factor.


They wouldn't affect the opportunity of anyone, they'd only give an economic head start to those who tend to come from economically depressed families.  Which is far from insignificant IMO.

So what do you think is the cause of the disparity in the chart?
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RE: We are all equal again, right? - Mickeypoo - 06-30-2023, 03:45 PM
We are all equal again, right? - pally - 06-30-2023, 12:21 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - pally - 06-30-2023, 01:21 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-01-2023, 11:07 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-01-2023, 11:50 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-02-2023, 11:13 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - pally - 07-01-2023, 10:43 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - pally - 07-01-2023, 06:40 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-02-2023, 12:25 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Leon - 07-02-2023, 08:22 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Leon - 07-02-2023, 08:29 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-03-2023, 07:57 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-03-2023, 10:29 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-03-2023, 02:42 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-03-2023, 08:55 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-04-2023, 01:29 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-05-2023, 01:53 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-06-2023, 10:31 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-06-2023, 10:53 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-07-2023, 12:12 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-07-2023, 03:07 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-05-2023, 01:57 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-06-2023, 10:43 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-07-2023, 01:34 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-03-2023, 02:34 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - pally - 07-05-2023, 05:43 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - pally - 07-12-2023, 01:52 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-01-2023, 12:35 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-01-2023, 03:34 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-02-2023, 12:33 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Leon - 07-02-2023, 08:34 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - pally - 06-30-2023, 08:37 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-02-2023, 12:45 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-03-2023, 08:10 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - CJD - 06-30-2023, 04:33 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-01-2023, 11:21 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Leon - 07-02-2023, 09:05 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - pally - 07-03-2023, 06:51 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - treee - 07-03-2023, 07:13 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-03-2023, 09:03 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - treee - 07-03-2023, 07:48 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - pally - 07-07-2023, 05:41 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-10-2023, 02:15 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-11-2023, 11:50 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-12-2023, 11:50 AM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-14-2023, 03:14 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-16-2023, 04:08 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-15-2023, 07:19 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-15-2023, 07:34 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - Dill - 07-16-2023, 04:06 PM
RE: We are all equal again, right? - pally - 07-13-2023, 03:43 PM

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